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Good job Anony! However I'd say that any figure that is >25pts should automatically start with a 3 rating. They are the ones you will always turn to for filling up that last slot on your team when you've got 30+ pts to spare. As such, they will see play on pretty much every team. So unless they are completely useless, they shouldn't get under a 3 ranking, imo.
This doesn't make any sense to me... I own plenty of pieces that deserve less and on top of that with more and more minion pieces showing up you should be able to find more creative ways to fill your team without a throwaway 30 pt fig.
I am really confused by these ratings. Why were you scared to throw out a 1 or a 5 . I understand you say they are compared to the crisis set, but I feel the League Assassin deserves a 1 . Seems like you are just setting up 22 points to get wiped. The only use I see is for masterminds with the off chance that it will land a shot. So maybe in that instance it is a decent piece, but compared to Crisis it is a definite 1 . This would also mean the Checkmate pawn white should be lowered to a 0
On the other end of the scale is the Atom and Hawkman. At 120 pts this is a great piece. I agree with you assessment, but looking back at the Crisis set, this piece could compete well and deserve a 5 . I also feel the Amazon deserves a 5. I think a team of Amazons with a Leader (one of the ones you suggested would be fine) would be a fearsome force indeed.
I appreciate you sharing your assessments and agree with most, but don't be afraid to spread out those ratings a little more.
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AMAZON - just a beast for the points
BRUCE WAYNE- nice DV and outwit for not much plus if you can change him into bats all the better!
JASON BLOOD- Mystic and PC yes!
CHECKMATE KNIGHT(Wth) nice options
DIANA PRINCE - love support!
I don't agree with a 4 on atom & hawk man no move and attack up front and no range meas your walking. since your opponent picks the power if they have penetrating they will pick invun and if not SS so really you would never get damage reduction maybe the lucky roll but not even half the time the AV are good its not like its a wasted figure i just don't think it would be a good center piece.
Did you take into account the fact that Jason Blood is 44 points with prob control AND Mystcs team ability? Throw him on for wild card teams... Pretty cheap and still useful mystics.
Did you take into account the fact that Jason Blood is 44 points with prob control AND Mystcs team ability? Throw him on for wild card teams... Pretty cheap and still useful mystics.
The wildcard thing is useful in constructed, but theseratings are for sealed. I'm pretty sure the only wildcard in the set is Mikron, and Iwouldn't play him to try and get mystics abuse.
Did you take into account the fact that Jason Blood is 44 points with prob control AND Mystcs team ability? Throw him on for wild card teams... Pretty cheap and still useful mystics.
There's only one Wild Card in BatB: Mikron O'Jeneus.
I do love discussion, specifically about Hawkman and Atom.
Here we have one player who thinks they're a 5
Quote : Originally Posted by kingpotato
On the other end of the scale is the Atom and Hawkman. At 120 pts this is a great piece. I agree with you assessment, but looking back at the Crisis set, this piece could compete well and deserve a 5 . I also feel the Amazon deserves a 5. I think a team of Amazons with a Leader (one of the ones you suggested would be fine) would be a fearsome force indeed.
Here we have someone who thinks they're a 3
Quote : Originally Posted by VenomDaBomb
I don't agree with a 4 on atom & hawk man no move and attack up front and no range meas your walking. since your opponent picks the power if they have penetrating they will pick invun and if not SS so really you would never get damage reduction maybe the lucky roll but not even half the time the AV are good its not like its a wasted figure i just don't think it would be a good center piece.
I'm willing to split the difference at 4. Playing this duo effectively will be a challenge for some, I suppose. If you don't have TK for a first strike, the best bet may be to force an opponent to get 2 tokens on them with your other attackers before swooping in with H&A (at which point you push for big damage). I definitely wouldn't use them aggressively.
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I would have to agree with your assessment of Hawkman and Atom at 4 shields.
The lack of move and attack is not a huge problem, but if you add into them that they cannot be carried you most likely are going to have to push to attack from that first click.
This means that if your attack misses, you could be a huge sitting goose.
A saving grace is that there are cheaper pieces he can carry with him that can become a threat. He pairs up nicely with the 50 pt amazon and you still have room for other support. The synergy between his Outwit and her Charge is amazing for the points.
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Having faced 4 Hawkman/Atom duos over 6 games (2 sealed events) last night/this morning, I can say that they are NOT worth their points. they were not a threat in any game I faced them in (admittedly, one group of games involved the Flash/superman Duo teamed with Max Mercury and the R League Assassin). Tie them up with any cheap figure and they need to waste actions killing them. I would give Hawkman/Atom at best, and I would almost never play them (unless that was the only non generic I pulled).
And the R League Assassin worked wonders, tying up Hawkman/Atom, blocking LoS, KO'ing Damian, etc.
As useful as reviews are, once you play the set, you'll figure it out for yourself.
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Talia is one of my favorite pices in the set. Supes and Bats allies with outwit AND mastermind!? gamebreaker, IMO.
In sealed, you NEED to pull someone for her to use Master Mind with, and it's probably going to be someone with no Damage reducers and only 3 or 4 clicks of life. In constructed, you can build around it; sealed... not so much.
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The reviews here are pretty fair, although there are acouple of 3's I might have personally swapped out for 4's. I really love Bruce in this set though, as his high defense and CR make him a pain to deal with. I'd throw him into the fray and take my chances, just pick your target wisely when you do so.
Nice review Mouse. To be quite honest, I hate the set. I hate it. Plain and simple. I can't even give a good reason, it's just not the same Heroclix to me anymore. I bought a single booster today and I just don't like it at all.