Wizard of Oz: Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

this is a game we all love, i think. Although after reading threads like "I hate this set...", "I hate this ruling..." I begin to wonder?

Because of the openness of NECA/Wizkids and the internet we, as a community, have a lot more access and input than many other games.

"With great power comes great responsibility"

that is all....resume the rants.

Have the players re-written the rules for chess because they don't like the Knight moving in an L-Shape?

The rules are the rules. Don't cry about them because you don't like them.

we should be able to use our equipment cards from Magic the Gathering and our trap cards from Yu-Gi-Oh!!!

Yea, it now moves in an S shape...

I think the rule sucks too.

i vote we get rid of talia's trait, wildcards don't like it, and niether do i.

The players always have control over what rules or rulings are used in the game in which they participate.

If you disagree with an official rule or ruling, change it to your and the other players in your group's liking.

The players discover what the designers do not.

Where's Brazil to fix the rules when we really need him?

Their trait can't be Outwitted anywhere. Traits can't be Outwitted. The Sharpshooter ability that is granted by that trait however can ;-)

Sorry I couldn't resist...

Anyways someone already tagged this with beating a dead horse...

Seriously, it's not a big deal. It's not that hard to understand and it only applies to like 2 figures right now. I think how I'm going to remember is... You can't take away (Outwit) something you don't have (possess). So if you POSSESS the power, it can be OUTWITTED.


On top of that, it only really applies to official big time WK events. If you want to play it differently in your neck of the woods there's nothing stopping you. But it doesn't need to be rehashed over and over and over. We know the official ruling, beyond that do what you want.

They could institute this rule...by all means, they SHOULD! Wouldn't change anything though, because this is the internets, and you can't get anybody to agree on anything on the internets.

this was meant to be a solution, not a rant. *raises hand* yes i'm guilty of beating the dead horse. (kicks it one more time) that's for you, bats & ollie!

And you should keep it that way! Just some friendly advice.

ahhhh.... mom you're jealous it the beastie boys!


you gotta fight for your right to...


PAAAARTY!!

For the topic at hand I would like power for the players but we may not always know what's best. There are few who understand how simple changes to a rule effect the game as a whole. I'm certainly not one of them.

Now on those who say GD knows what they are doing.... I wouldn't be real sure of that. I'm sure they are very smart people and have a firm grasp of what they are doing. Though this game has it's fair share of mistakes. I think most of the players guide is a testament to that.

I don't understand where this notion comes from that we have "rights" as players to change the rules of the game. Heroclix is a property owned by Wizkids/NECA, and only they have any legal rights regarding it. Chiefly, the right to do whatever they want with it. If they want to make a set based entirely around duo figures, they can do that. If they want to make figures that form the YMCA when placed next to each other, they can do that. If they want to make a figure of a friendly purple dinosaur and make it more powerful than Superman, by golly, they have the right to do that, too. (As long as they don't violate any copyrights in the process.)
Your rights as a player are to not buy the game if you don't like it, and to not play by the official rules in your own home if you don't want to. Nothing wrong with that. But there is nothing that gives players the "right" to make the company that owns and produces the game change the rules for it.