Well as someone who once received a prize at WW Philly because in all three rounds of the tournament I rolled one LESS on EVERY roll I made I say YOU are ridiculous if you don't think that bad luck with dice can destroy a good stratagem or team.

Sure, bad rolls will lose a game for you sometimes, and good rolls will win a game sometimes. I can recall games I won because my luck was fantastic and games I lost because I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

But someone who is making the assertion that they ALWAYS have bad rolls all of the time and have played for any substantial number of games is either playing with a pair of dice that is literally loaded against them, or fails to understand probability.

And as a means of conquering bad rolls, I played a team recently containing a Dawnstar and two PD characters, giving me essentially +3 to many of my attack rolls. I didn't miss very many of them.

I feel that when rolling you need to roll with confidence. Sounds weird, but seems to work. If you roll the dice with the weight of the world on your shoulders and a defeatist mentality, expecting to roll poorly, you are more likely to do so.

I was in a slump where I felt like this and I consciously decided shortly after, to roll with confidence, inside my head, not smack talking my opponents, but thinking positively. Seems to have turned my dice rolls around.

I mean, when I was in my slump, I played 3-4 GAMES without making a single attack roll!!!!! More recently, I have been winning 75% of my games.

Also, good players make the dice roll in their favor. They use perplex, theme team probability, outwit, and strategy to make sure their die rolls hit, and hit hard. If you are trying to hit a guy with 19 Defense, and you have a 9 attack, well, no wonder why you can't hit him. Use your lower attack value figures to take out his cheaper figures with lower defense values.

Wholly and completely UNTRUE since you're using this as a blanket statement.

I've had streaks where my dice are the cause of my losing, and those I play against can attest to that. It's not due to any lack of strategy. Heck, I've taken pieces that aren't all that good and my strategy made them useful.

I know one player, who prolly already posted but I just skimmed the thread so I don't know, that has decent strategy but I know his dice rolls are bad. Un-statistically bad. It's a ready joke with him that if he needs a 3 to hit he'll most likely miss the attack, even with three Prob Controls. But he fun to play against and knows quite a bit about the game.

So to say this as a blanket small rant statement is wholly wrong. Yes, in some cases the loss is due to poor strategy, but not all.

Without delving any further into this thread I have to comment on this.

Your statement of "ridiculous" is blatantly ignorant.

If you roll all 2's, 3's and 4's you are going to loose regardless how you play. Unless of course all you need to hit is a 3.

On the other hand if the person you are facing is rolling 10+ the whole game you are going to loose.

I have played games where I, literally, needed 5's and 6's to hit and missed every...single...time. And squirmed in anguish as my opponent, needing an 11 to hit me, rolled an 11.

There is no strategy for over coming poor rolls on your part and stellar rolls on your opponents part...unless "running away" and hoping for a roll off at the end is considered a "strategy".

I will now continue through this thread.

Edit: OK, after having read the whole thing I can see your point, kinda. Also you original statement of "all games" was hidden in there amongst everything else.

I agree, if someone is blaming "bad rolls" for "always loosing" and same person prefers to use Perplex on damage instead of AV's, with your point.

As it stands I play a "rule of 6" personally. If I need higher than a 6 I expect to miss. And if I need a 6 or less I expect to hit. I miss that 6 more than I care to admit though. Makes me cry...at home, with no one around...in the dark.


Probably shouldn't have mentioned that huh?

The only bad rolls I believe in are the ones my wife serves at Thanksgiving. She has no idea how to bake them properly. She always burns them. Even with butter they never taste good. Yuck!

I played a game not long ago where I missed all but two attacks. My opponent rolled consecutive 6's for super senses on both those attacks. He also did not miss with an attack that game. Sometimes you can blame a loss/credit a win with dice rolls.

I also think that botching things spectacularly sticks with you more than mild success. I remember when Beast crit missed a quake that would have finished off 3 figures, and died to the push, more than the time he dealt 2 damage to Wolverine.

i will say that I have had many many games where it seems like I can't roll above a 4 while my opponent can't roll under a 10 (happened the other day on HCO), and one tournament in particular where every game I played I crit missed my alpha strike; but when I look at the average game I play, I will very often roll 9s 10s and 11s, but it is usually when I need a 6 or 7 so I don't notice them. Also, I tend to make a big deal about missing by 1 (even if it is a 12 I need to hit and such), but I always make a joke of it rather than get upset about it. I honestly think it is hilarious when I miss by 1 five times in a row. So because of this, I notice it more. I know that logically I am doing fine, and I know I am not a good strategist. I enjoy the game win or lose (mostly lose) but making a big deal about it helps me enjoy the losses just as much.

I can fully attest to the fact that no matter how well you strategize and plan and even Perplex, bad rolls can and will shut your games down faster than anything. I had 2 pair of dice (one from the X-Men starter, one from the FvJ set) that rolled low WAY more often than high. I had read similar stories right here on the 'Realms, with the end result usually being a dice transplant, but just couldn't allow myself to believe it. So a few Saturdays back, after losing in 2 rounds of a tourney with the old standbys, I broke down and bought 2 new six-siders. I KO'ed the entire opposing team and didn't lose a figure that third round. I have consistently rolled higher with those dice, and won more often, than I have in my years of playing this game. Now I'm not saying I lost all those games just because of my bad rolls, but they did play a huge role in those losses.

You guys are kind of missing the point.

Yes, bad rolls can completely torpedo your chances of a winning a single game.

But if you lose all the time [games, plural], it can't possibly be solely because of your "bad luck." All the time. This is what ABF was referring to when he started the thread. He takes issue with people using "I have bad luck" as a cop-out for why they consistently lose.

The point was missed because the OP wasn't completely clear in what his bone of contention was.

Actually, I got the point, but apparently didn't make mine as clearly as I'd intended. I did lose consistently due to bad rolls. It's not a cop-out, or an excuse, it's a fact that everybody at my venue that I've played against can attest to.

On a side note, I've always found it funny how one person's "excuse" is another person's honest answer. But that's a whole 'nother thread.

Quoted for truth.

Why cant people realize thats its all in the wrist?

If you can overcome luck with your masterful strategy and grasp of probability, you need to be in Vegas raking in the cash instead of wasting your time playing with little plastic men.

And the OP is using a sweeping generalization when the laws of probability dictate that some of these people are quite likely to be losing strictly because of bad dice rolls. Not only is it possible that it is solely due to bad luck...it is probable that in some cases (note, I am not saying most, many, usual, etc.) the player loses because of their "bad luck". I will grant that those cases are probably far fewer than the actual cases where people blame bad luck, but a sweeping generalization is unfair in the cases where the claim is accurate.