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The targets are determined as soon as the square is chosen. Stealth won't matter for that, but things like Energy Shield / Deflection will still activate. Since it targets based on the square targeted, not the characters, it completely evades Stealth. You absolutely can throw the grenade at Stealthed characters.
Yes, you can throw a grenade at them, but wouldn't the grenade 'explosion' not be able to target stealth characters as it is a ranged combat attack? It's like trying to outwit an adjacent character right? Or am I just interpreting this incorrectly?
Yes, you can throw a grenade at them, but wouldn't the grenade 'explosion' not be able to target stealth characters as it is a ranged combat attack? It's like trying to outwit an adjacent character right? Or am I just interpreting this incorrectly?
No, because you're not targeting the character based on line of fire. Stealth only works if line of fire is drawn. Since you're drawing line of fire to the square, you don't care who is between you and the square. Once the square is chosen then the targets are based only on who is in that square and adjacent squares. It does not draw line of fire to characters at any point during the attack, so Stealth never plays a part.
For those who can't see the pic, but want to see the stats.
#042 U Master Chief and Cortana
Team: United Nations Space Command (UNSC)
Range: 8
Points: 150
Keywords: Armor, Soldier, UNSC
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Speed - Strategic Positioning: Master Chief and Cortana can use Running Shot and Sealth Attack - Battlefield Requisition: For each opposing character that takes damage from Master Chief and Cortana's attack, choose one: add 1 grenade to your grenade pool; or modify another friendly character's attack value by +1 this turn.
United Nations Space Command (UNSC): Adjacent friendly characters modify their range values by +1. Give this character a power action and choose an adjacent friendly character. The chosen character modifies its damage value by +1 while adjacent to this character and making ranged combat attacks this turn. Uncopyable.
Throw a Grenade: Give the character a power action, decrease the number of grenades in your grenade pool by 1 (if greater than 0), and choose a type of grenade listed on this card. Choose a target square within 5 squares and line of fire (ignoring characters for line of fire purposes). Make a ranged combat attack targeting all characters occupying or adjacent to the target square. Deal damage to each character hit based only on the type of grenade chosen. Grenade Pool +1 Frag (2 damage): A hit character in the target square is dealt 1 additional damage. Each other hit character is knocked back from the target square. Flashbang (no damage): The target square for this grenade can be within 8 squares. Place an action token on all hit characters that have zero tokens.
No, because you're not targeting the character based on line of fire. Stealth only works if line of fire is drawn. Since you're drawing line of fire to the square, you don't care who is between you and the square. Once the square is chosen then the targets are based only on who is in that square and adjacent squares. It does not draw line of fire to characters at any point during the attack, so Stealth never plays a part.
Ah, got it. Thank you!
I can still see this becoming an issue at venues with lesser informed judges/players.
I can still see this becoming an issue at venues with lesser informed judges/players.
I am sure they've already cleared this up in the rules forum, come packing a printout of the thread. The judges in my area usually accept the orange rulings.
The targets are determined as soon as the square is chosen. Stealth won't matter for that, but things like Energy Shield / Deflection will still activate. Since it targets based on the square targeted, not the characters, it completely evades Stealth. You absolutely can throw the grenade at Stealthed characters.
This is actually better than I was hoping for. The TA is amazing and I honestly would love to see SHIELD modified to be identical. I cannot wait to get Shield and Armor teams together with this guy. The added grenades can be very useful since he only starts with 1 grenade, but it also seems the added damage could be more useful, as you could target an area with your grenades, and then have a buddy standing close by to clean up the area.
He totally should be holding a BR, but I think this is referencing a scene where he laid his rifle down while he was looking at a Forerunner console.
well ok, that's cool! i'm gonna be SO broke in september!! school stating for the kids and clix for me!! maybe my landlord will let me skip a month!!
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Sculpt is not terribly amazing...especially the "Cortana" part :P hopefully they re-use the Cortana sculpt and make her by herself too. Of course he's a beast! He's an SR/chase...look at the rarity on the card.
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Sculpt is not terribly amazing...especially the "Cortana" part :P hopefully they re-use the Cortana sculpt and make her by herself too. Of course he's a beast! He's an SR/chase...look at the rarity on the card.
They are. The figure was on display at GenCon. He's a Super Rare. There appear to be other figures in the set that are actually chase figures.
thanks emouse for coding the dial!! another look and he's just a MONSTER! for 150 pts you get so much!! the grenade bonus is just icing on the cake!! being able to crack reducers on EVERY click is just nasty! he's a first string attacker and a support piece! let him go in and shoot to soften them up then have him outwit whoever, or vice verse!!
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