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09/27/2011, 17:52

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I ask to see opponents cards during their turn, that way I'm prepared and ready during my turn... Plus it does make them wonder what I'm planning.

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09/27/2011, 18:06

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Sometimes passing is a very viable tactic. As an example I recently played in a 3 way battle. I won the map choice, and as a result, both of my opponents got to set up first, leaving me stuck between them on the map any way you cut it. Since I also had to go first, that meant moving my figures out and making them vulnerable to two other players. The only viable strategy was to pass on my first turn, and let immunity protect me while my opponents took their initial turns, which hopefully wouldn't result in passes as well.

Unfortunately, that's not what I did.

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09/27/2011, 18:06

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Quote : Originally Posted by normalview

It is not that they are given more time. It is that the other guy, the one with less characters, doesn't need as much as the other guy. And, yes, there is a difference between the two.

If you really, honestly need 5 minutes to figure out if your lone Quasar is going to shoot or clear, you've probably already lost the game. Anything else and you are just running down to clock to gain an advantage, AKA stalling.

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The answer is pretty clear. Any "discussion" seems to be a thin veiled attempt to turn stalling into something else.

If you cant win on your own, so be it. Take the loss. Stalling is cheating and grounds for a DQ.

And no, you DONT need to see every figure's card every round, especially if the figure has no special powers. If I were at Gencon I'd quickly ask for a judge to warn or DQ you. And ask him/her to stay while you took "5 minutes" to move your one figure.

That would solve the problem real quick.

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09/27/2011, 18:09

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Quote : Originally Posted by Harpua

That's not how the game rules work, but others have covered this.

As long as someone is doing whatever he is doing within a reasonable amount of time, then that person is not stalling.

If someone came to me at GenCon and said that player A was taking 5 minutes per turn for his five-man team (and those five minutes were being used in some productive manner), so player B was sitting there doing nothing with his one-man except elapsing 5 minutes from the clock, I'd give player B a warning or DQ for stalling.

Depending on the circumstances, taking 5 minutes for 5 guys might be reasonable.

Taking 5 minutes to do nothing but run out the clock is never reasonable and would be unquestionably stalling.

Yeah, Sorry.. It's been so long since it's actually happened. It use to be that way a long time ago, when victories were Your opponent's Ko'd figs + your survivors

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09/27/2011, 18:35

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Repeated passing is legal.

At GenCon when Johhny Thunder was given out as a participation prize at Battle Royales (Shock the Turtle) the following occured:

"Pass" "Pass" "Pass" "Pass"
"Pass" "Pass" "Pass" "Pass"
"Pass" "Pass" "Pass" "Pass"
Shock the turtle starts, all figures take damage.
"Pass" "Pass" "Pass" "Pass"
Shock the turtle continues, all figures take damage.
"Pass" "Pass" "Pass" "Pass"
Shock the turtle continues, all figures take damage.
"Pass" "Pass" "Pass" "Pass"
Shock the turtle continues, all figures take damage.
"Pass" "Pass" "Pass" "Pass"
Shock the turtle continues, all figures take damage.
"Pass" "Pass" "Pass" "Pass"
Shock the turtle continues, all figures take damage.
"Pass" "Pass" "Pass" "Pass"
Shock the turtle continues, all figures take damage.
"Pass" "Pass" "Pass" "Pass"
Shock the turtle continues, all figures take damage.
"Pass" "Pass" "Pass" "Pass"
Shock the turtle continues, all figures take damage.
"Pass" "Pass" "Pass" "REGEN!!"

Eventually all players died and got thier Johnny Thunder. Whole thing lasted 3 minutes. The rest of the con went to "King of the Hill" for BRs.

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09/27/2011, 20:10

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Using up time for the sake of using up time is stalling, which is illegal.

09/28/2011, 00:15

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