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I think my comic books are borken, they don't work exactly like heroclix. I think I will have to pettition the writers of comics to request this change.
Dear Marvel, DC, and others, I propose these changes:
Any fights must take place on maps with flattened buildings and cars.
All characters must remain attached to large discs with their names and all their personal information printed on them.
The only other 3-dimensional objects on the board besides the characters should be: a soda machine, a large woden crate, a dumpster with the lid stuck closed, a street lamp, a desk with stuck drawers, a mailbox, an old 1950s style computer, and a book shelf. All other objects will be printed on flat discs made out of cardboard.
Firelord MUST be on every team.
Constrictor and Hobgoblin will never be serious threats.
Teams that choose to fight will, before the fight begins, choose a point total to assign members to the fray. If there are a few left-over points after all major members are assigned the teams will recruit rookie thugs and henchmen.
Even though Juggernaut can wipe the floor with Black Panther, Black Panther will always play a vital role in his defeat.
I think that these changes will make comic seem more like heroclix.
I think Frisbees are borken. I couldnt ever get mine to skip off the street (although I could do this really cool toss that made it rise as it sailed to my friends).
In my day, we didn't have Heroclix. If you were being attacked by Superman with a 3d dumpster, you just had to hope you could outrun him.
Pawns? PAWNS???? They are the MOST BORKEN pieces in Chess. If you get them to the other end of the board they can become ANY, I MEAN ANY piece EVEN a QUEEN!!!!
AND the WHOLE "en passant" THING.
Ban all pawns and give the knights the ability to carry other pieces.
Originally posted by T_Darksoul Pawns? PAWNS???? They are the MOST BORKEN pieces in Chess. If you get them to the other end of the board they can become ANY, I MEAN ANY piece EVEN a QUEEN!!!!
AND the WHOLE "en passant" THING.
Ban all pawns and give the knights the ability to carry other pieces.
Pawns can become any piece except the ALL IMPORTANT KING!!!
"I was raised a warrior.I choose battles I believe to be just." - Duncan MacLeod , 1815
"Who would I be if Connor MacLeod had never found me?"- Duncan MacLeod
Originally posted by Camelsmoker People will always complain at things they don't like or that are opposite of their tactics. Most of the people who have beef with outwit play with inv/imp. Why not use BP or FL? You would be a fool not to.
and that's the whole point we the so-called "whiners" are trying to make !
outwit is a great power and If you don't want to play with BP, I'm not getting any up front.
even in fun games (the only kind I play even in tournaments !), this is obvious.
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we are called whiners because we didn't say our opinions in a question ?
Wow, you will get a lot more dissapointment in your life I can tell you that !, Darius.
this forum/board is made for discussion so discuss instead of making a mockery out of it !
Stop trying to make a mockery out of the rules. It seems that you would like to PUSH your version of the rules on the rest of us.
You walk down a dangerous path with all these rules changes you talk about.
Try playing within the system instead of trying to make the rules so you win all the time. If you don't learn to lose gracefully once in awhile it is you who will be disappointed.
If you are having fun then what difference does it make anyway? You shouldn't be amongst the complainers.
I think there is one big thing we all need to remember.....even one of the greatest set of rules of all time.....the Constituion of the United States.....was purposely constructed so that it could be changed and updated and altered. I know the guys at WizKids are good.....but even the founding fathers knew that the rules that they had made were not perfect and that they should be changed over time as actual people tried to function within those rules.
So therefore it is important that people voice their opinions about the rules. The more you play, the more you find people that either abuse the rules, or find loopholes in the rules, or twist the rules in a way they were not meant by the original writers or find rules that just don't work as they were intended. So voice your opinions and let the rule makers find ways to adjust the game to make it the most enjoyable experience for everyone.
I mean it is one thing if you are complaining because you just keep getting whooped by a person that makes the most of his team and it's special abilities, but it is a completely different thing if I have to make my team Thor and 10 con artists just to be competitive because that is how everyone else is taking advantage of the rules.
I want the game to be fun and balanced. And the more we play the more we find things that could be better or should be altered to keep the game that way. So voice your opinions and I am sure if things are really being abused, they will be changed.
And one other thing.....am I just not up on the lingo....but what the hell is "borken"? I know it can't be just that you all don't know how to spell BROKEN (with the R before the O) so it must be some cool new word that I don't know about.
Thanks for listening.......
A kiss is an application for a better position
Wolverine leaps at Doom and is blasted by beams from his guantlets
Doom "Did you think it would be that easy?"
Wolverine "Easy or hard, makes no difference, I'll keep coming until I get you!"
Many people on the realms refer to some HC pieces as being "Broken." These are pieces that they feel either do not accurately reflect their comic book personas, or pieces whose point cost does not adequately reflect the stats and powers on their dial.
The term "Borken" is an alternate adjective that can be used to describe the same pieces. The difference is that while Broken infers their is something wrong with the piece, Borken doe not. Borken simple means that you would have to be an idiot to not seem the value of using the given piece. Hence, Firelord is "Borken", not "Broken." Black Panther is "Borken", not "Broken."
Borken, I believe, was originally a type-o that caught on. I like the afore mentioned definition of the word.
The Constitution can be changed, but it is such a hard process to gaurantee that is what the MAJORITY of the people want.
The thing about loopholes is that in games, everyone has the same ability to take advantage of it. In fact, every rule should be taken advantage of in any game as long as it doesn't cross the threshold of cheating.
Originally posted by darius_dax1 Borken, I believe, was originally a type-o that caught on. I like the afore mentioned definition of the word.
The Constitution can be changed, but it is such a hard process to gaurantee that is what the MAJORITY of the people want.
The thing about loopholes is that in games, everyone has the same ability to take advantage of it. In fact, every rule should be taken advantage of in any game as long as it doesn't cross the threshold of cheating.
I agree with everything you say, however just because the loopholes are available to everyone does not mean they shouldn't be closed. If a loophole impacts a game to the point that it stifles creative and innovative play then it should be fixed. I'm not convinced heroclix is at that point, but I think its very close. Can you win without taxis? yes, but its significantly more difficult than winning with them. Can you win without outwit? yeah, but if you were relying on invulnerability to a large degree it becomes more difficult.
I'll readily admit a skilled player can overcome any rule loophole and still win. However, new players are almost never skilled and the number of games it takes them to discover these loopholes or learn to play around them can be considerable. Especially if those first few packs they buy contain an awful lot of hobgoblins and such. There's only so many times a player will lose badly before the game stops being fun and they quit trying. I think thats bad for the game.