And, even if we don't have an NBA season, we at least have a pretty good college basketball season that just started.

I love it. The chance to play as Hakeem is well worth the price of admission.

But the show stopper to me is the My Player function. It is hands down, the best I've played in any sporting game genre. You get to play in a rookie showcase to help determine your likely draft spot. Then after the game, you interview with 3 teams interested in you. From there you get drafted and have to play your way into the starting lineup. (I got drafted by my Knicks, played behind Chauney for the first 7 games. Got put into the starting lineup when Fields got injured. And now is a full fledged starter now that they traded Billups away.) Granted there are bugs in the system. They traded Melo away 15 games in and now I have Kevin Durant as my running partner. Which is a bit disconcerting when as a PG you get used to getting Melo the ball where he can do a lot with it and now having to learn how and where KD likes the ball. But I figure it's pretty much like real life, a player unless he's a superstar has very little say in who comes and goes on the team.

But having control over your player's development is awesome.

I know, but it feels like a consolation prize...

That does sound much better than some of the previous ones that we've gotten. I hated some of the last ones that we've had. I don't think it was 2K11 but maybe one of the other games. The player creation basically had you going out to the summer league and trying to show off for scouts. I scored 30 points in my first game with 10 rebounds or so and my manager gave me a D due to my defense. This sounds pretty good though and I may actually check it out.

I'm more of a college fan than an NBA fan. I think that's mostly due to not having an NBA team anywhere close and living in a state where college basketball is the big thing. If we don't have a season I won't miss it until when the All-Star break would have been and won't really miss it until the Playoffs would have began.

Some of that is still there. You're much better of not helping unless your matchup can't shoot.

I can see why Stern is the commish. He's masterful with the media.

NBA's current proposal.

The framing, the timing. Say what you want about Mr. Stern, but he's great at this part of the game. Something Hunter is woefully inept at. If Billy had any media savvy, he'd have had the players' offer out there long ago.

And it looks like the players declined the NBA's offer and are going to decertify. Looks like our season is very quickly slipping away.

So any thoughts as to why the owners won't seriously consider revenue sharing? That combined with the concessions the players already made would have every team in the black. And going into the red with that type of plan would require blunders of epic proportions.

I could care less about pro basketball.
I hope the never play again.
But college ball is great.
I live in Syracuse New York, home of the Orange.
I'm looking foward to thier season.

That's great, and has absolutely nothing to do with the topic we're discussing.

Not really sure. I think they are trying to squeeze everything they can out of it right now. Given the route that the players took with disolving the union, I'm doubting that we'll see a season. I'd actually take a 50 game season like we had in 99 at this point.

(I LOVED that 99 season. I was in my senior year of high school and was a fan of the Knicks back at that time (Pre Isaiah Thomas). They made the playoffs as the 8th seed and went to Game 5 against the Heat and won on a last second tip in by Alan Houston. Next round they beat the Hawks. Then in the Conference Finals they have a great series against the Pacers, ending with a great 4 point play by Larry Johnson. Then of course they went onto lose pretty badly to the Spurs, but the run overall was great.)

I'm a pretty big college basketball fan as well. I live in Kentucky, home of the Wildcats, so I've been looking forward to this season for a long time.

The one thing I hope to see come out of all this (once it gets resolved) is raising the age limit to 20 to make it 2 and done instead of 1 and done. I know it's something the owners agreed on and one of the things the players were likely to give them.

Sure it does.
It's my opinion about the NBA lockout.

Jerry; I've thought about the age limit too.
If you remember, Anthony went to the NBA the next year after winning Syracuse's first championship.
Much too young by some peoples opinions.

I know there are playes like Lebron, Melo, and John Wall who could go straight out of high school, but those are few and far between. I really think the additional year will help more players become better prepared for the NBA, which will increase the talent in the NBA and let them have better and longer careers. If I were an owner and about to invest millions of dollars in them, I'd welcome the chance for them to get another year to mature if nothing else. I know David Stern has said he'd like to get it to 21 (3 and done) but I'm not sure I see it going that far. Two and done is the more likely of the scenario. From what I had heard reported on ESPN and things though, it's definately going to increase from 19 where it's at right now.