If those were the only two combinations I would agree that it wasn't much of a change. However, it's not. Beta Ray Bill, Maxwell Lord, Graveyard Map, Invisible Woman, Camouflage, and I am sure more that I missed and more yet to come. Don't get me wrong, I have no particular problem with this change or the overall weakening of Pulsewave other than it feels more like an accidental change than a planned one.

I am just making the point that ignoring the modifier is not a great trade off for what is now lost.

It is both.

If we're talking about the SI Invisible Woman, then there is no change. She has always been better than Pulse Wave.

Who says it was supposed to be?

I disagree. I've lost count of how many characters I have missed by 1 with Pulse Wave because of the hindering terrain bonus. Number of times I've wanted to Pulse Wave a member of LoA/Hand: 0.

It's not quite so simple as just blowing a hunk of wall...if ya think about it, each assasin character could easily be adjacent to 3 squares of wall!!!
Eats up a lot of actions!!!

Kind of want to try a Hand team, just to see how it works out...

So just to be clear the Frog of Thunder is also safe from pulse wave when he is in water, right?
Among the Weeds "Thor, Frog of Thunder can use stealth. Lines of fire drawn to Thor, Frog of Thunder are blocked if he occupies water terrain."

Bah, even in frog-form Thor would not be so cowardly as to hide from his opponent! Get him out of the water and attack with him! Besides, he can't swim, right?

But, yes, Among the Weeds will protect him from Pulse Wave.

Hey man the Frog doesn't like to get exploded on.

So, just to clarify, Pulse wave wont get to the part where it "Ignores all game effects" on a character because the ATA's keep your figures from having LOF drawn to them in the first place? If thats true, why was it ruled that on the Graveyard map Pulse Wave can hit characters in the Orange Graves?

Actually, with the way pulse wave is now worded, it will not target those characters because it ignores hindering terrain for drawing LoF and those squares are not hindering.

Even if they are unable to drawn line of sight to the character, but there is another figure within range that they can target. They would be allowed to pulse wave and at that point I believe those figures would take damage if they are within the PW range.

It only says lines of fire are blocked but I consider this as they can't the the sole target of the blast, but everything gets hit within the bomb so to speak. If it said something like they turn into blocking terrain then I could see where they would not take damage, but it does say that.

PW used to be a good way to hit stealth figures if you could target another figure within range and it still hit the guy in stealth even though you could not target him before. Now it ignores hindering but it has not always been that way. PW rules and it should stay that way, its still not completely broken power.

It's already been clarified, and it doesn't seem to work that way. The LoA ATA prevents them from having LoF drawn, so even if they are in range of a PW attack on a taret that had LoF drawn it won't affect the LoA figure.

From the PAC Pulse Wave: "Make a single ranged combat attack and compare the attack total to the defense value of all other characters with a line of fire drawn to it; each character hit is dealt damage."