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Every question that has been asked has been answered in post #2.
Not all battlefield promotions are the same: BATTLEFIELD PROMOTION: EMMA FROST: When White Queen hits one or more opposing characters, after actions resolve, place a Promotion Token on her character card. You may then roll a d6 that can't be rerolled and add 1 for each Promotion Token on her character card; on a result of 8 or higher, you may replace this character with M10A #014 Emma Frost on the same click number.
BATTLEFIELD PROMOTION: WORLDBREAKER: When Hulk hits one or more opposing characters, after actions resolve, place a Promotion Token on his character card. You may then roll a d6 that can't be rerolled and add 1 for each Promotion Token on his character card; on a result of 8 or higher, replace this character with M10A #013 Worldbreaker a number of clicks from its blue starting line equal to the number of clicks this character is from its starting line. If the d6 roll was a 6 and Hulk has 6 or more Promotion Tokens replace this character on the same click number.
The 2 similarily highlighted sections promote the same way. The underlined section uses Worldbreaker's BLUE STARTING LINE as the STARTING LINE. Therefore, when promoted in THAT fashion, you can't heal past the BLUE STARTING LINE.
If you promote and meet the BOLDED criteria then you can heal right to the normal STARTING LINE.
Ok, aslong as thats the official ruling as personally part of what was said (for Emma Frost) was alittle confusing.
I wouldnt want to mistakenly cheat during a tournament if something like this came up
wonderfull
THANK YOU ALOT
This thread already answers ALOT of questions
Now, what about Emma Frost... http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6828585
(the promotion part was kinda answered for healing but she do have a KO clic in the middle of her dial and no starting line to help us use the ruling in this thread, so... can you tell us ?)
wonderfull
THANK YOU ALOT
This thread already answers ALOT of questions
Now, what about Emma Frost... http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6828585
(the promotion part was kinda answered for healing but she do have a KO clic in the middle of her dial and no starting line to help us use the ruling in this thread, so... can you tell us ?)
You're asking about making the choice to go to click 8 and then healing her past that back into the front section of the dial, right? I assume from the lack of official response to this in the other thread that there's either a delay in getting intent from Design or some issue working out how to make it work as intended. My opinion is that once you choose to go to click 8 you cannot heal back past that point, but that's obviously not the official answer (or at least it isn't yet.)
Note that this is a different thing than healing a promoted character: you can't get to her "heavy combat" rear dial through promotion, only through a choice made on click 3. It looks to me like Design was offering a choice of what last 4 clicks you want her to have, but you only get to choose once.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
“No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style.”
You're asking about making the choice to go to click 8 and then healing her past that back into the front section of the dial, right? I assume from the lack of official response to this in the other thread that there's either a delay in getting intent from Design or some issue working out how to make it work as intended.
Yes. I would have appreciated an orange post to say "we know about it, we're working on it" though.
Quote : Originally Posted by necrodog
My opinion is that once you choose to go to click 8 you cannot heal back past that point, but that's obviously not the official answer (or at least it isn't yet.)
It's the way it will be ruled where i play for as long as we don't have enough official answers. Yet, i hope it won't be ruled that way in the end.
Quote : Originally Posted by necrodog
Note that this is a different thing than healing a promoted character: you can't get to her "heavy combat" rear dial through promotion, only through a choice made on click 3.
I know, and i agree, it's a different problems, but it has a common point though : the way "starting line" are defined or not...
Quote : Originally Posted by necrodog
It looks to me like Design was offering a choice of what last 4 clicks you want her to have, but you only get to choose once.
Yes. I looks like that to me too. And if it was their intent to have a choice on what the 4 last click are, it would make sense that they rule that if healed from click #8, you go back to click #2 (meaning there are two different sequences of clics : 1,2,3,4,5,6, and 1,2, 3 becomes 8, 9, 10, 11) - I hope it will be ruled like that because it also makes sense that she could go back and forth from diamond form to normal in some way (even if it's through the x-men healing TA) - I also hope that because it feels weird to have her dial lenght being shortened by making the choice to go from #3 to #8
Also, there is another common point between this thread and the other one about Emma : through promotion, she can land on click #3, and we need to know if she can make the choice to go to #8 then or not.
Yes. I looks like that to me too. And if it was their intent to have a choice on what the 4 last click are, it would make sense that they rule that if healed from click #8, you go back to click #2 (meaning there are two different sequences of clics : 1,2,3,4,5,6, and 1,2, 3 becomes 8, 9, 10, 11) - I hope it will be ruled like that because it also makes sense that she could go back and forth from diamond form to normal in some way (even if it's through the x-men healing TA) - I also hope that because it feels weird to have her dial lenght being shortened by making the choice to go from #3 to #8
IMO her dial isn't being shortened. It's a 6 click dial, not a 10 click dial: you have a choice of 3-6 or 8-11 for her last 4 clicks. As to the shifting back and forth, I guess we'll see: that seems like a potent option on top of the power set and the dual TAs for the point cost.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
“No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style.”
IMO her dial isn't being shortened. It's a 6 click dial, not a 10 click dial: you have a choice of 3-6 or 8-11 for her last 4 clicks. As to the shifting back and forth, I guess we'll see: that seems like a potent option on top of the power set and the dual TAs for the point cost.
By shortened i meant that :
- if you choose to stay on clic #3 you have a 6 long clic where you can be dealt damage and heal back to clic #1 = 6 clic lenght FULL FLEDGE with healing possible to starting line
- if you choose to go on clic #8 (and it is ruled she can't be healed back) then you only now have 4 clics of life where you can be dealt damage and heal back to clic #8 only => the dial has been shortened by your decision to go to clic #8
For a figure that has the TREMENDOUS X-MEN ABILITY, this is of great importance i think.