Your endorsement of poor quality control sickens me.

Haters gonna hate?

Of course DC is pushing the new versions of the books hard. They have to.

But as for the old stuff? Clearly they don't have any intention of shelving it - as far as toys & imagery is concerned. And they keep pumpimg out trades of old stories....
You want evidence? You've just gotten an entire set filled with characters that have yet to make their NU52 debuet. And before that? There was a set called DC 10th anniversary.

No, the errors on this Huntress is just more typical WK sloppiness.

Your narrow-mindedness sickens me.

Just like I'm happy that the obviously Nu52 Cyborg came with "Teen Titans" keyword, I'm happy that Huntress has "Birds of Prey".

I want to make Birds of Prey teams, not... whatever team you think this character should go on.


Besides, given the Keywords, costume, and power descriptions, isn't it more likely that poor quality control is in giving her the wrong "real name"?

I have no defense for that.

But, because it has ZERO impact on my team building or game play, they could have said her real name was Jim Gordon and I wouldn't really give a flip.

Meh. Fairly mediocre which is highly disappointing.

Pros:
59 points is fairly cheap

10 attack to start

Cons:
No Willpower on first click means she pushes off her first click and gets a -1 to attack with little upgrade.

80% of her dial has below average attack values.


Huntress has no real role on a team. Running Shot is nice but she lacks the mobility to get into position quickly (No jumping from rooftops to rooftops for her).
5 range is short.

Special Power isn't very useful except situationally. CCE is just fine (and allows her to use Lunge) but the rest of the power is based on ranged attacks where she does 2 damage. The -2 penalty applies to the second to the last desirable combat value, movement. With a 5 range she is going to be close to the action and the -2 is less likely to make a difference (as opposed to an 8 range). With the below average attack values, she is much more likely to Incap herself thanks to ES/D, Average + defenses, Hindering Terrain, etc.

The SP should have had you place a token on the hit figure and then give you the -2 (which would have been better on attack, defense, or damage instead - where its really meaty).

So what do we have? A fairly mediocre piece who will be the weakest member of the BoP teams. That sucks. I'd have preferred a dial more like a Robin.

Fingers crossed the FF Huntress follows the Red Robin style (vastly better than his Main Set dial) and not the Harley Quinn style (sucks in EVERY form!).

I agree with most of what you said (Except for the Harley thing, I happen to think the Primer Harley was quite good), but with the trend things are following lately, those attack values may be on the good side once everything up to Batman cycles out. Values are taking a slight dip to negate power creep lately, so I don't think she'll be suffering against many future defense values. However, that still doesn't account for her unforgivably low range, as she's a crossbow expert, so she should at least have 7.

Being a big BoP fan I'm happy to see a new Huntress. I wish she was better, more of a representation of the tail-kicker seen in either Gail Simone's BoP run or in the current World's Finest. But this is definitely better than any previous version. An average 9 attack and almost 17 DV versus the average not-quite-7 attack and just-over-13 DV of the HT Vet is no contest for me. I can pay fewer points for a figure that's basically points on a plate for my opponent is not a selling point.

The name mix-up is unfortunate, and it would be nice to know which figure this actually is: the "old" BoP/JLI Huntress or the Earth 2 World's Finest member. There are quite a few of the old BoP figures in these two sets, so it's not a given either way.

Nowhere near negative enough. Keep trying...

Transgender Huntress?!?! I'm in!

Your avatar sucks.



Edit note: That's about as negative as I'm gonna get for the moment.

Nightrunner is a great way to spend 50 points.

Caught most of the "Arrow" episode tonight, and guess who the main new character was!?! Helena Bertinelli, as a mobster daughter turned nondescript weird motorcycle helmet vigilante. And preview for next week shows her in a recognizable Huntress costume.

Someone forgot that she is a Wayne now, I guess

I hate Huntress as a character, but I LOVE her SP.


I love the special powers with effects. Wolverine's Amputation Attack to Save the Universe is my favorite SP in the game.

I agree that the stats in Batman are noticeably low compared the the prior sets - but WK always drops stats after insane Superman sets. I'll guarantee Spider-Man brings those numbers much higher.

Regardless, even when facing an Arkham Guard, she is doing too little damage to take them out like she should (assuming she rolls a 7 to hit that fool). That, for me, is not Huntress.

When a guy like Nightrunner or El Gaucho or Batwoman get dials as good or better than this Huntress, it is a problem for me. She should be a threat - not a minor annoyance for taking theme team prob tokens.

Maybe she'll be good at slowing down vehicles if I can roll those 8+'s. We'll see in a few weeks. Its just that every preview has ranged from good to great (so far) in $oG so its extra disappointing to have one of 2 characters I am a huge fan of getting a dial like this.

And I disagree 100% that Harley is anything but a big bag of suck. I'd love to hear some success stories using her that don't have the 125 point Joker on the team.

Am I the only one who thinks it's funny they preview this figure the same day Huntress is set to appear on Arrow?

Props to whoever got that timing right.