That first sentence of the Legionnaire Flight Ring's special rules is very clear, something that is not all that common from Wizkids. Your force may include up to 3 of this relic regardless of its type. Nothing more. Nothing to say that it may be the only relic on your force. What are you reading that "Clearly states you can only use multiple relics if they are Legion Rings only."?

The strategic value of including Legionnaire Flight Rings on your Force along with another Relic (such as my Mother Box example) is irrelevant to the legality of a force that includes both.

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THIS.

Relic.

What relic? This one. The Legion Flight Ring Relic.


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I AGREE!

The two Legionnaire Flight Rings are part of the force without regard to type. Since their type doesn't matter, the third object can be whatever I want, thus Mother Box.

It can be added regardless of type, but it is still the type of object it is, so the other relic would not be able to be added, because you already have an object of that type. When you go to add say the M'Kraan Crystal Shard, and have a flight ring, it will check and see that there is an immobile object (even if it is in the light object slot) and cannot be assigned.

The problem is no other relic can be added to your force if there is another immobile object. So:

Assign Flight Ring 1
Try to Assign Mother Box
-Immobile object already exists, it isn't assigned because Motherbox doesn't allow itself to be added regardless of Type

OR:
Assign Mother Box
Try to Assign Flight Ring 1
-Immobile object already exists, it isn't assigned because it has to be assigned before the wording on the card takes effect. So, the first Flight Ring has to to to the whatever spot, because before it is assigned there is nothing saying that it can ignore what type of object it is.

I agree everything should be errata'd that needs to be, however witht he SLoSH set only being out for a few weeks now and all the other game breaking mechanics in it, I don't see how this should get top priority over say, the SPO.

I guess I just see things that break the game more getting minimal treatment for the health of the game where as people running two different types of relics won't take away from the fun as much.

The third object can be whatever you want, provided it's not another immobile object and therefore illegal.

I understand your point. I suppose I was being somewhat pedantic in response. I'd certainly agree that this is low priority, especially within SLoSH.

And this is where we keep talking in circles .

The Legionnaire Flight Rings - by their own text - are added without regard to type. Why are you (royal you referring to everyone since I seem to be on my own here) reading that the "type" of the Legionnaire Rings matter?

Putting two Legionnaire Flight Rings on the force, when you go to add that third object, it is either another Legionnaire Flight Ring (which can be added because type doesn't matter to it), or another Relic (because the only objects already on the force don't place any restriction on "type").

I can see where the OP is coming from.

The flight ring says:
I start adding objects with the Mother Box. Now I want to add a Flight Ring. Is one ring "up to three"? Yes. I should be able to add it "regardless of its type".

Is one more ring "up to 3"? Yes. Again, I should be able to add it.

I read it just as the OP does. Not saying it's correct, but regardless of it's type should mean that other object could be a relic. Clarification is definitely needed.

No this is Brightblade. Have you not been formally introduced?

I actually deliberately put a period instead of a question mark.

I do see the point as which the hangup is occurring.

But the other IO has no such restriction. It also is preforming the "can you legally assign me to the force" check. Even if I were to concede on whether "this relic" somehow meant "any relic" (which I'm not, BTW ) then you still can't assign another IO because then that object is illegally assigned. The only IO with the decreased limitation would be the LFR, not the Mother Box.

Or:

What he said.

I don't believe the order in which you add things to your force is really relevant to the end legality of the force. (I tried - and failed - to make the argument that it did in the "Vehicles & Resources" thread shortly after the Watch List became a thing)

I don't think any of you are saying that I could start with the other Relic then add two Flight Rings, but couldn't start with two Flight Rings and then add another Relic, are you? That would be silly. The order doesn't matter.

Let's step away from force construction and take a look at if we have a legal force:
When your force is checked for legality, you have three objects - two that can be there regardless of type, and one Immobile Object. Is that legal? Yes, yes it is.

How do you come to a different conclusion?

I try not to get into too many rules threads, because I tend to be a bit more persistent than most when looking for the reason behind a ruling.