Dang Moped, I feel bad for you.

Based on your posts and awesome mods you seem like a respectable and well-mannered player, yet many of your posts describe situations which I would find quite unacceptable.

It seems the region you call home is rife with dinks.

I can't imagine someone being so hissy fitty about some Clix.

Now if I was sitting across from a real clumsoid who decided to Copycat my Hobgoblin Prime, I would make the deal that the touching will be done by me. Cheap figures, who cares.

Stay strong brother, there are some good folks out there too!

You are required to announce your actions and show your path of movement when you move a piece. So there is definitely no level of strategy lost if you simple have another person doing the physical movement since he is getting 100% the same information he should be getting anyways.

Sometime watching something vs doing it yourself will have an impact on the move.

Hey, whatever you do in the privacy of your own home is none of our business.


But for cryin' out loud, if you're not going to let someone else touch a relic that by the rules of the game can be acquired by any character, then it's possible that collectible gaming is not the best activity for you.

How exactly do you handle your opponent picking up an object you placed?

How do you handle an opponent moving a figure into base contact with your figure? (I know often when I move a figure into a cluster of other figures I may "touch" one of the others as I position.)

How do you handle an opponent who picks up a relic that you placed onto the map? The rules specifically say to put the relic on the character card.

And, unfortunately since I'm on my phone, there was a "ruling" that whatever you place non the map is legal for your opponent to use. This was concerning replacement characters and characters who can "generate" other figures. I don't believe that the "ruling" has changed but the gist was if you placed it on the map its legal for your opponent to use.

The common definition of use would imply that the opponent takes full control of it for the duration.

If a fellow player asks to use an extra set of dice do you come to their game and roll the dice each time they take an action requiring a dice roll?

I'm not suggesting that allowing the opponent to be the one to physically move the figure you MC/Copycat isn't somewhat reasonable, I'm saying based on the rules it seems forcing this would be a rules violation. If it is, then expect an opponent, especially at a "major" tournament to push for a disqualification for you and an auto win with full points for them.

So here's an anecdote for you.
I was playing Ghost Rider on my team recently.
The opponent asked if he could look at the dial to see defense, attack and what powers he had at the time. I was fine with it.
However, in the process, e fumbled the figure and it fell on the ground and broke. Not just came off the base, but flat out broke.
He gave me his to replace it, but WHAT IF my opponent breaks my figure like this and refuses to compensate?
I think that's the fear some people have with copycat.
Honestly, as a player, I don't mind myself, but I can see (especially after the experience I had recently), why some people might not be so keen to hand over their figure for the duration of the game.

As a judge, if ask politely if they'd consider, then ask the opposing player if they had a copy of that figure themselves they could substitute, and finally I would see if the original owner would control the piece for the person who played Copycat.
If the player was still refusing after all that, I'd DQ him and award full points to the opposing player who used copycat.

And that ladies and gentlemen is what we call meta.

Isn't it suppose to be "hope you WERE joking" ?

Anyway...

You're just telling me wizkids is making more of the same crap ?
Not surprised.
And not interested.

Of course that IS the right solution. I agree.

I'm still convinced that "long-term control" of an opponent's figure is a bad thing for the game though. But wizkids has made alot of moves that i consider bad for the game lately. Time will tell if i'm right or wrong about the "for the game" (in general) part but it sure has made me quit.

There are quite a large chunk of figures from the last two years that need to be banned in order for me to enjoy the game now. It wasn't the case before. So i guess i only have the option to play casually under home rules now... Not that i miss the tournament scene and the horrible meta-play too much, don't worry.

The ruling was in fact quite the opposite. If for example you Mind Control your opponents Zuvembie and have it KO one of his characters, your opponent is under no obligation to give you any of his Zuvembies to play with (Zuvembies create other Zuvembies when they KO a character). And you can't replace your opponents character as the rules quite clearly say that you can only replace characters that started in your force.

You're right, it doesn't for the first part, but in the terms of strategy I can see where it can frustate the person using the power to have to constantly update you what to do, its similar to turning your figure so your opponent cannot see their dial and constantly have to ask you for the stats and powers, and other such crummy sportsmanship instances. When someone acts in this manner I would imagine it is very hard to shake their hand at the end of the match.

I'm not even reading the replies. The answer is simple, DQ. If I play copycat and you say no to the switch, it's a DQ. It's no different than me damaging your figure and you refusing to click it. I'd just call a judge over and get myself a W.

There's a guy that used to play a lot and he was always wiping his nose on his arm and scratching his balls during the game. Had horrible breath and just outright had very bad hygiene. Every time we've played I wouldnt shake his hand when the game was over and he asked me once why so I told him. You act like you had a bad run in with Bangkok Betty and haven't brushed your teeth in a month.

It drove me bonkers when he would pick my figs up to read stats. To hell if he'd be breathing and handling my figure all game. I'd run in there and just let copycat get killed or try to fail the shape change roll on purpose. Perhaps Id just take the loss or tell him Id move my fig and click it for him.

Either way I get it...and I absolutely hate the ####ing Copycat figure.

How exactly do you get to "chose" to do that? You can ask. But you can't choose.

Bingo on all three, with 1 being the optimum conflict-free solution.

Then, if I'm judging it's a game loss, if not a DQ. That's cheating.

Tell them not to flaunt it if they're not going to give it up.