I don't see how that can be reconciled with the rule book. As I understand the rule on page 13, you'd have to draw a LOF to v8 that also crosses v7 along the edge between v7 and v8.

At this point, I think we should get a ruling on whether what you described works and how the game should proceed.

Where would you move Jaime to?

I would move him to X7 or X8

I don't see that working either.

According to Melk, the reason I couldn't see in the other case was because of the least restrictive of V7 and U8...in U8 there's a wall there. Here' in W8, there is no wall. That's my thinking anyways.

Might need to get Melk in here again.

That still won't work. The LoF is blocked between Winter Soldier and the wall between U-8 and V-8. (I'm guessing those numbers, but the wall South East of Winter Soldier.)

I'm going to need a map with the *exact* setup showing the proposed action before I can say anything definitive on this.

This was my thought.

The only to blow the wall out with Winter Soldier in that square, is to have Winter Soldier knock it down.

this would be the setup if I could do it

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...4&u12=x244y186

Assuming that the one taking the shot is token nr. 3, it still doesn't work, this time for two reasons. Wanda needs LoF to the squares of either side of the wall she's busting (ignoring the actual wall). Those would be V7 and V8.

For V7, her LoF is blocked by Brother Voodoo (nr. 7) and for V8, her LoF has to pass through the least restrictive of either W8 or V7. W8 has a wall (and not the wall she gets to ignore) blocking the shot, and V7 has Bucky (nr. 1) blocking things for her there

Darn alright I'll do the turn over. Damn diagonals!

Turn 4b) Redo

(free) Leadership roll is a 4

1. Jamie moves to X7

(free) Jamie perplexes up Human Torch's damage +1

(free) Wanda moves to X8

(free) 3 CP tokens to increase Human Torch's attack +3

2. Human Torch pushes to RCE on Nightmare. +2 dam. AV 11 vs DV 17. Roll is a 6, 3. Reroll from Nightmare is a 3, 2. Reroll from Wanda is a 3, 1. Reroll from Voodoo is a 5, 1 for barely the hit. Super senses roll is a 3. Nightmare takes 5 damage for the KO. 1 push click to Human Torch.

(free) CP token

PC case by case

**********

SHIELD (home)
1) V Winter Soldier* 70 pts (7/7) V7
* Trick Shot 20 pts
2) R Mandroid Armor 28 pts (4/4) V6
3) R Scarlet Witch (FF) 35 pts (5/5) X8 @
4) LE Gabriel Jones* 17 pts S4
* Contingency Plan 12 pts $
5) E Human Torch (SI)* 85 pts (3/7) X10 @@
* Nova Blast 10 pts
6) E Multiple Man 32 pts (4/4) X7 @
7) Brother Voodoo 79 pts (6/6) W7
8) R SHIELD Agent (IC) 10 pts (3/3) R4

Total - 398 pts

Objects: Kinetic Accelerator Q7, SHIELD Disruptor N15, HO N13

vs.

Monster Island
1. U Nightmare (ASM) 110 pts (0/5) KO'ed!
2. E Demogoblin 85 pts (6/6) J-16 @
3. U Ult Green Goblin 62 pts (7/7) L-16 @ (Tombstone)
4. R Mole Man (GG) 47 pts (5/5) K-17 @
5. Moe (R Werewolf) 31 pts (3/4) T-12 @
6. Larry (R Werewolf) 31 pts (3/4) R-12 @
7. Curly (R Werewolf) 31 pts (0/4) KO'ed!
Total: 397 pts

Objects: kinetic accelerator, tombstone, phone booth

Kinetic Accelerator: J-16
Tombstone: Green Goblin
Phone Booth: H-13

BFC: Telekinetic Strain
When Telekinesis is used to move a character or object 6 or more squares, the character using Telekinesis is dealt 1 unavoidable damage after the movement is resolved.

Map: Mechanical Offices

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...0&u12=x273y259

Monster Island Turn 5A

Full Moon=6
Werewolves go to Click 11.

1. Larry charges to W-11 and attacks Human Torch with BCF.
10 v 16
Roll=3,1
Miss.

2. Moe charges to X-11 and attacks Human Torch with BCF.
10 v 16
Roll=4,5
BCF roll=2
Hits for 2 damage, reduced to 1 by Toughness.

Free) Green Goblin perplexes Mole Man's Defense by +1.

Werewolves return to Click 2.

**********

SHIELD (home)
1) V Winter Soldier* 70 pts (7/7) V7
* Trick Shot 20 pts
2) R Mandroid Armor 28 pts (4/4) V6
3) R Scarlet Witch (FF) 35 pts (5/5) X8 @
4) LE Gabriel Jones* 17 pts S4
* Contingency Plan 12 pts $
5) E Human Torch (SI)* 85 pts (2/7) X10 @@
* Nova Blast 10 pts
6) E Multiple Man 32 pts (4/4) X7 @
7) Brother Voodoo 79 pts (6/6) W7
8) R SHIELD Agent (IC) 10 pts (3/3) R4

Total - 398 pts

Objects: Kinetic Accelerator Q7, SHIELD Disruptor N15, HO N13

vs.

Monster Island
1. U Nightmare (ASM) 110 pts (0/5) KO'ed!
2. E Demogoblin 85 pts (6/6) J-16
3. U Ult Green Goblin 62 pts (7/7) L-16 (Tombstone)
4. R Mole Man (GG) 47 pts (5/5) K-17
5. Moe (R Werewolf) 31 pts (3/4) X-11 @
6. Larry (R Werewolf) 31 pts (3/4) W-11 @
7. Curly (R Werewolf) 31 pts (0/4) KO'ed!
Total: 397 pts

Objects: kinetic accelerator, tombstone, phone booth

Kinetic Accelerator: J-16
Tombstone: Green Goblin
Phone Booth: H-13

BFC: Telekinetic Strain
When Telekinesis is used to move a character or object 6 or more squares, the character using Telekinesis is dealt 1 unavoidable damage after the movement is resolved.

Map: Mechanical Offices

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...0&u12=x273y259

Turn 5b)

(free) Leadership roll is a 1

(free) Jamie perplexes up Voodoo's attack +1

1. Voodoo phases to N13

(free) Voodoo will MC Demogoblin. AV 12 vs DV 16. Roll is a 1, 4 for the hit. Demogoblin takes a swing at Mole Man. AV 11 (+1 SP) vs DV 17. Roll is a 1, 4. Reroll from Voodoo is a 4, 6. Super senses roll is a 6. Booo.

(free) CP token

PC case by case

**********

SHIELD (home)
1) V Winter Soldier* 70 pts (7/7) V7
* Trick Shot 20 pts
2) R Mandroid Armor 28 pts (4/4) V6
3) R Scarlet Witch (FF) 35 pts (5/5) X8
4) LE Gabriel Jones* 17 pts S4
* Contingency Plan 12 pts $$
5) E Human Torch (SI)* 85 pts (2/7) X10
* Nova Blast 10 pts
6) E Multiple Man 32 pts (4/4) X7
7) Brother Voodoo 79 pts (6/6) N13 @
8) R SHIELD Agent (IC) 10 pts (3/3) R4

Total - 398 pts

Objects: Kinetic Accelerator Q7, SHIELD Disruptor N15, HO N13

vs.

Monster Island
1. U Nightmare (ASM) 110 pts (0/5) KO'ed!
2. E Demogoblin 85 pts (6/6) J-16
3. U Ult Green Goblin 62 pts (7/7) L-16 (Tombstone)
4. R Mole Man (GG) 47 pts (5/5) K-17
5. Moe (R Werewolf) 31 pts (3/4) X-11 @
6. Larry (R Werewolf) 31 pts (3/4) W-11 @
7. Curly (R Werewolf) 31 pts (0/4) KO'ed!
Total: 397 pts

Objects: kinetic accelerator, tombstone, phone booth

Kinetic Accelerator: J-16
Tombstone: Green Goblin
Phone Booth: H-13

BFC: Telekinetic Strain
When Telekinesis is used to move a character or object 6 or more squares, the character using Telekinesis is dealt 1 unavoidable damage after the movement is resolved.

Map: Mechanical Offices

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...5y-3&u11=x10y8

Monster Island Turn 6A

Full Moon=2
Werewolves get SC.

Free) Green Goblin perplexes Demogoblin's Attack by +1.

1. Demogoblin attacks Voodoo.
10+1 v 18+1
Roll=1,2
Miss.

2. Mole Man MCs Green Goblin
9+3 v 16
Roll=1,1
No damage, as MC is a no-damage attack.

3. Green Goblin flies to M-15, carrying Mole Man to L-14.

**********

SHIELD (home)
1) V Winter Soldier* 70 pts (7/7) V7
* Trick Shot 20 pts
2) R Mandroid Armor 28 pts (4/4) V6
3) R Scarlet Witch (FF) 35 pts (5/5) X8
4) LE Gabriel Jones* 17 pts S4
* Contingency Plan 12 pts $$
5) E Human Torch (SI)* 85 pts (2/7) X10
* Nova Blast 10 pts
6) E Multiple Man 32 pts (4/4) X7
7) Brother Voodoo 79 pts (6/6) N13 @
8) R SHIELD Agent (IC) 10 pts (3/3) R4

Total - 398 pts

Objects: Kinetic Accelerator Q7, SHIELD Disruptor N15, HO N13

vs.

Monster Island
1. U Nightmare (ASM) 110 pts (0/5) KO'ed!
2. E Demogoblin 85 pts (6/6) J-16 @
3. U Ult Green Goblin 62 pts (7/7) M-15 @ (Tombstone)
4. R Mole Man (GG) 47 pts (5/5) L-14 @
5. Moe (R Werewolf) 31 pts (3/4) X-11
6. Larry (R Werewolf) 31 pts (3/4) W-11
7. Curly (R Werewolf) 31 pts (0/4) KO'ed!
Total: 397 pts

Objects: kinetic accelerator, tombstone, phone booth

Kinetic Accelerator: J-16
Tombstone: Green Goblin
Phone Booth: H-13

BFC: Telekinetic Strain
When Telekinesis is used to move a character or object 6 or more squares, the character using Telekinesis is dealt 1 unavoidable damage after the movement is resolved.

Map: Mechanical Offices

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...24&u4=x652y-94