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I am one more vote for Rising Aganist not putting up.
He took my delivered clix worth $130+ and has lied multiple times about saying he already shipped it, but "suddenly" lost the tracking number. He has been "looking" for it for over a week.
If he actually does mail me Ophidian, or at least the stuff I traded to him (Superboy Prime, Kyle Parallax, amongst others), then I will recant my "Scammer" judgement.
How does this guy have a 100% with 25 if he has scammed so much?
I messaged him. He also said he's shipping out tomorrow. Can someone hit me up with the personal info in case I need to call the local police or USPS? I'm international....so that'll suck phone bill wise lol
I dont even wanna post my conversation with that chump. I sent him the most ridiculous lot of clix for a chase parallax. It sickens me to even think about that melon farmer robbing me of $300+ worth of clix. Im tempted to track him down and go all UFC on his a$$ but whatever. Seeing him brought to justice would be better I guess. And if you think this string of scams is all a shipping miscue then this guy is really good with his BS
I was talking with dbailey at work today about this. Its ridiculous. Risingagainst actually mailed a box to the wrong address in the same town to be able to give a false tracking number (since the tracking website shows the town). Hopefully, that deceitful action will help get the postal inspectors involved, and actually slap this guy with a felony mail fraud charge. After some cursory searches, it looks like those charges become more serious based on the number of people who were ripped off. I would suggest everyone involved to start opening cases with their post office now. You can probably start the process online.
And the mail fraud code which appears to fit here.... bring out the rules lawyers
18 U.S.C.#§#1341#provides:Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan, exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure for unlawful use any#counterfeit#or spurious coin, obligation, security, or other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out to be such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by the#Postal Service, or deposits or causes to be deposited any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by any private or commercial interstate carrier, or takes or receives therefrom, any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail or such carrier according to the direction thereon, or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed, any such matter or thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
It looks like Rising Against joined in April of this year. He conducted a high number of (successful!) trades in a short period of time to elevate his itrader. Having a high enough rating allowed him to set up a scam window in which he could deceive a large number of unsuspecting traders. It all sets up as a scam. How do you flawlessly execute a high number of trades in a relatively short period of time then all of a sudden forget how to manage your trades? Its criminal. I say we all RISE AGAINST Mark Watson and prevent him from scamming someone else in some other outlet
Bittersweet, emphasis on the bitter, to see how this thread exploded overnight! I'm estimating about $100 worth of clix stolen from each of at least ten different traders... the $950 threshold is where California law kicks into grand theft (do the math, and insert your own video game joke here).
Two more PMs from Mark Watson yesterday, in response to my message "Final chance for you to avoid criminal charges." One said "Hey Rob, My number is [redacted]. I'll call you later this evening after I get off of work." The second said merely "I need your address"-- I see some of you all have gotten similar.
I sent him my address, again (this is the fourth or fifth time) and, having received no calls from him by 9PM Pacific time, called his number myself. Immediately got dumped to a voicemail service for Mark Watson (so at least it's a good fake name/number) and left a polite voicemail asking him to call me back or email me at the address I use for HCRealms (my username at gmail). So far he's done neither, but it's only 6AM Pacific time at the moment.
I think we need to back off on the Glendale coin club. As I mentioned to a couple people, I'm trying to pursue this in a calm, professional way that would, when necessary, hold up in court. The guy at the Glendale coin club says he's got nothing on Mark; we need to take him at his word on that and not harass them. I think we have enough other leads to go on at the moment.
DocSquid, I have heck of empathy for you: I too want to assume the positive, give second chances, etc. etc.. But as my favorite poster says, "We Are Trying To Have A CIVILIZATION Here". That includes holding up both ends of bargains.
Bat-Phreak, thanks for the kudos. If we can get more long-standing Realms members like you and Hail_Eris to participate in this thread-- even (or especially) previous scam victims of Mark Watson under his other aliases-- I think it can only help the cause.
Let me close by asking, again, that anyone who has experienced loss from Mark Watson's fraud post the specifics in this thread, ideally with quotes from their communication with him. I'm not proud of being duped either, but "lack of honest communication" is the weapon of the enemy on this one. "We do not need it. We will not use it."
I really hope Mark got to the post office yesterday and shipped Priority Mail, or that he's willing to pony up for overnight shipping today; his last chance to call me off may already have passed. I'll post more if more happens worth posting.
All I lost to this ####### was time. I arranged a sale with him back in june.
And then the excuses started as to why he hadn't paid. Never did receive an address.
Finally, since by the rules, it doesn't seem I can leave him the negative feedback he deserves (WITH ALL OF YOU SHOULD BE LEAVING HIM), I simply added him to my ignore list.
Advice to all of you:
1) leave the appropriate feedback on your trades/sales.
2) treat those with less than 100% with the suspicion they deserve. They have negatives for a reason. If you trade with them? THEY send 1st. Period. The end. If they refuse/object? Move on.
Do not sell to/(or especially) buy from them (consider: why would you want thieves to have access to your PayPal?)
If anyone still needs good 'ok Mark's contact info, he was nice enough to leave his phone number and email address in the newsletter when he was stil editor. There's also some meme worthy photos of him online. The contact info is a great starting point to social engineer backwards from if you need more his personal info for mail fraud charges. It also means that the president straight up lied when he said he had no idea how to contact him.
I spoiled SLoSH and all I got was called a "dink", and this lousy signature.
If you could throw up a picture of him, that would be great. I may need that on my visit to see Mark...If you're reading this Mark, you do understand this isn't a game, right ? This is theft. These "toys" have a defined market value, and the people you're screwing over are intelligent and now have ill will towards you. Honor your trades, or send back the figures. Friday at noon PT is my deadline to get a shipping confirmation.
I understand the fury and vengeance from those that have been burned by this guy, but it's not a good idea to post personal information on others (even if they're scum)freely on any website. Keep it to PMs and the website won't have to worry about Punisher-style vigilantism.