I do like that idea a lot. I'm on the fence about whether or not I want to use that as part of the backbone of the deck, which I'd really have to make a lot of room for, or if I should just splash in a copy of Subliming Soul. The fact that I can play Armageddon Knight and send a Djinn to the Graveyard, Ritual Summon, and then set myself up for the same play next turn is intriguing but it seems like it would lead to dead draws in larger tournaments.

Has anyone tried fitting Ritual Raven into any of these new builds? Everything that I'm focusing on right now is running Contract with the Abyss so it might make sense to try out Ritual Raven.

That's exactly what I mean when using Subliming Soul, lol.

Offering of Sacrifice/"Ritual Raven", in terms of a build around Contract with the Abyss, is definitely useful to have given it makes any of your DARK Rituals 1 Tribute, so you'd only need 3 general cards (4 if you count a searcher).

well, during a discussion. me and my friend came accross the question of, "what happens when i run out of my ritual mon?". i was wondering what the thougts were on things like reincarnation? its a -1. so unless its gaming, most wont spend the cost on it. but with things like armageddon and the new guy, alongwith the abilities the djinn bring to the field *pun intended*. is it considered worth it?

Personally I like The Transmigration Prophecy more for recycling Ritual Monsters since it can also recycle Ritual Spells and disrupt your opponent's Graveyard. In the end versatility usually wins out for me.

With that said how many times are you really going to need to summon more than 3 Ritual monsters? I need to do some testing to answer that question but my gut feeling is if you've dropped Demise and 2 copies of Garlandolph you should be winning, if not something else needs to be fixed in the deck.

It's also why I said Pot of Avarice; recycle Rituals and/or the searchers.

Burial from a Different Dimension is also nice to recycle the Ritual Devils for reuse.

true enough i gues.

realy the only reason i like reincarnation is cause it gets it to your hand. trans has become a standard in my decks now days. so i always have a copy. buyt i just like the idea of being able to use it now.

Well, probably the best way of using it is ditching a Ritual Devil for the cost while taking back a Ritual Monster or even just a searcher and search out a Ritual Monster. Preparations for the Ritual makes you able to get a Ritual Magic Card from your Graveyard, so there's not so huge a need to take them back with The Transmigration Prophecy.

What is the object to this card for ritual summons. I know the card text of the card, but am having a hard time using it. I have a relinquished deck I play now, but am confused on how to play this card. Do you send it to the graveyard without summoning it on the field? I am having a hard time getting rituals out when I put this card set on the field. CONFUSED......

Say you play Black Illusion Ritual so you can summon Relenquished. When you are asked to tribute a monster for Black Illusion Ritual you can remove a Djinn Releaser of Rituals to count as the monster being offered for the Ritual Summon. This minimizes the number of cards that you have to lose from your hand and field to summon Relenquished and it gives you the protection since your opponent can't Special Summon monsters while Relenquished is face up on the field

So then it would be beneficial to send him to the graveyard instead of the field? Or for that matter get him to the graveyard if you are planning a ritual summon.

In my eyes it's best to load the Djinn monsters into the Graveyard with something like Armageddon Knight or Dark Grepher, in my case preferably Armageddon Knight so you aren't using any cards to get the Djinns into the Graveyard.

This is the deck that I have planned:

http://ccgrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511224

Basically it's trying to load the Graveyard with monsters for Rituals or Dark Armed Dragon.

Of course, that's not to say you CAN'T use them from the field. You still will get their added effects if you Tribute them for Ritual Summons from the hand or field. They merely have the added benefit of being removed from the Graveyard to count too. So if, for some reason, you CAN'T get them to the Graveyard (Macro Cosmos, Dimensional Fissure, Banisher of the Light/Radiance, or even something as random as Dimensional Fortress Weapon), you can still Tribute them normally for Ritual Summons and get the effects.

But yeah, your best course of action is to try to dump them to the Graveyard quickly. Though, one small advantage to using them from your hand/field is that you can use them normally and still get their effects then, possibly, have a 2nd Ritual Summon ready and possibly immediately remove the same ones you just used from your Graveyard for that 2nd Ritual.

I haven't tested out my build yet because I have too many proxies to keep track of, but I don't completely hate the idea of Summoning a Djinn monster, attacking with it and then dropping Demise or Garlandolph in Main Phase 2 to take care of anything else that is still in your way.

It's a shame you can't use Cold Wave in this deck, it would be a great (Read: Broken) way to lock down your opponent's back row before you dropped Demise or Garlandolph. Needing Ritual Spells to Summon the previously mentioned monsters makes this virtually impossible. Now if you were running Royal Decree in the deck that would be a whole different story. There you'd really only have to fear Book of Moon. That would really need to be determined when Absolute Powerforce is released and the meta is more fleshed out.

Most likely why they made it so it has to be the very first thing you activate or it can't be done; it'd just be too evil to do all you want and THEN lock down m/t right after.

Sadly, I still don't think Rituals will REALLY pick up after ABPF. People rarely like having to use other things to get out their monsters unless it uses up nothing else of theirs really. People may try to use Garlandolph like Demise with Advanced Ritual Art, but I don't really see people going back to normal Ritual Summoning very much. =\

Biggest problem with rituals: They are vulnerable to both Monster AND S/T removal. Before Summoning and after. Just too slow! Synchs patched that up a bit, though. Removed the weakness to S/T, added a whole new class of monsters, sped them up, added incredible support and essentially made RitualMonster/BrokenMode.