Well, I'm not uber-excited... and that's weird, because I WAS excited for Indy. And it has nothing to do with the figures. The major figure releases all look like they're just going to be ok... I'll never be happy until Spidey has 2 targets. Loga... Patch shouldn't have BCF at all. Hulk (Professor) should never hit 2 damage. More clicks of RS for Surfer. 3 damage for Venom... these were all things I was expecting (maybe that's why Indy didn't let me down... very few expectations). Ulik is amazing, since I didn't know what was coming. The mainstays of the Marvelverse... not so much.

Question on Spiderman : How many times do you see him pummel down an opponent with strength ? He normally uses his superior intellect to take them down . I can't remember the last time Petey used his brawn over his brains .

Silver Surfer: modified as he had to be at least for this game I would have liked to have seen a 12 range, but eh? How many hookers does it take to turn this guy into a monster?

Spider-man: you came close WK, but spiderman with no spiderman TA, makes little to no sense for me. The veteran I do like

Venom: I still can't get past that pose, decent dial though

Hulk:He actually looked very playable to me, to be the brick that he is I expected him to cost way more than he does.

Patch:And I should use you instead of Logan/stealth Wolverine because......oh right perplex so far down your dial you'll either die or regen right past it

I LOVE THE NEW HULK.....nice..new Spiderman is good....could of done more with it...NICE SCULPT...same with Venom...Patch is OK...but THEY KILLED SILEVR SURFER...NO ATTACK POWERS????? And 1 click of Running Shot?? He's OK, but I thought he would be better.

Wow, they all stink!

I was really expecting something great after seeing the stats for Ulik and Kraven LE.

Hulk looks like a big waste of points. He only does 2 damage for half his dial, and even when he can bring on the hurtin', his defense stinks!

Patch needs to take 2 clicks of damage to be "activated" and that's too much IMO.

Venom actually wasn't half bad. I think his damage and range are a bit low, but I could see putting him on a tourney team.

Once again, WK has screwed up Spidy. He's completely vulnerable at the beginning with a low defense. And he still can't do more than 2 damage???!!! At least give him perplex! The 18 defend is nice, but there's no promise you'll ever be on those exact clicks. Worst of all though, is the fact that his range is still terrible and he doesn't have 2 arrows! TERRIBLE!!! I think XP Spidy is still the best - not so easy to play well, but the best of the bunch.

Silver Surfer - wipe out! The guy has some nice stats, but in a game that has quickly become all stealth, that running shot won't do him much good. He could have been done better: higher attack value, higher peak damage (1 click of 5), 1 or 2 more clicks of running shot, a more consistent attack throughout the dial, and maybe a click or 2 of outwit. Not a terrible figure, but definitely not worth his points. I can use E Ultron to share an 18 defense if need be. I only plan on using this guy if I pull him in a sealed booster event.

I don't want to close on such a negative note, so I will say that I am very impressed with Ulik (who should be a regular on all my 400+ pt armies) as well as Kraven and Dormamu. I still have hope...

I personally am NOT complaining! I love each stat (cept for patch, couldn't care either way) Spidey is Great!!! EXACTLY what he should be! and Ulik is AWESOME!!! Defineatley the new brick on each of my teams.

Thanks Wizkids!

Kon-el

Lets see...............Dissapointed by patch.........
One click of running shot for silver surfer?...its missing 2 IMO.
Venom Vet version is good............
Spiderman is cool.....should of been in I.C.

And whats up with all these no name figs?.........

Patch is FUNKY!!

I LOVE IT!

I like patch. I can't wait to use him and mr fixit in a senario

This has really been some week, eh? I have to say that if this is the kind of treatment we get when the list doesn't get out, then I'm all for no more lists! The trickle really means that I get excited at what they give us.

I have to say, even as a DC fan, I myself am disappointed with these stats, especially with Silver Surfer.

Critical Mass held so much promise for these characters, especially these characters, and I feel they've been let down. Silver Surfer has such a dull dial, it reminds of Thanos'.

The Hulk looks okay though, he keeps a very good AV through his dial, he'll probably be the most playable Hulk to date, and that wild-card TA will only make him more attractive. The fairly low DV also means he'll be quite easy to heal.

Spider-Man is definitely an improvement, but like the others, nothing special.

Overall, I give these figures 'meh' stars out of five.

Marshall Law----great dial conception! Now, on to this:

Hulk: will be great in cross company play for the same reason Batman rocks w/ new rules.

Spidey: his rookie will still see a lot of play from me. It' that "last ditch" click that drives his cost up (I'm guessin)

Venom: his dial doesn't sit right, but the more I look at it the more I think I could get used to it.

Silver Surfer: got bit by the power bug but stomped the stat bug into the ground. He'll see more play when people realize the potential.

Patch.............uh, thanks anyway.

Luke B.

I still don't understand why they give spider-man defend all the time and not more outwit or perplex. Like someone said earlier, he wins his fights by annoying (perplex) or out-smarting (outwit) his opponents most of the time.

9 clicks of life, 8 movement with Leap/Climb, 6 range, 2 arrows, incapacitate, 18 starting def with SS, 10-11 attack, 2 damage all down the dial with Perplex to start (givng him 3 possible damage) and mixing in outwit. Simple!

Hey, I know this may sound as a bit of a surprise but I think the Surfer looks pretty playable. He's gonna hit you first and then gets tougher and his regeneration will put him back on his toughest clix...his support is a good bonus that fits the character...sure he's not the beast of heroclix will all expected (and I really hoped for) but he, just like Thor, will be fun and easy to build a team around...don't forget that 18 D with the defenders TA, I can see crossing that with the wildcards after the release of this set and making some intresting options.

That Hulk is hardly playable but the Spidey TA is an interesting bonus.

Speaking of Spidy, this is THE spiderman we've been waiting for...I was hoping for CCE with a base one damage but this is an excellent figure for 88pts and consistently playable...Venom is not bad either.

Patch pretty much shows that this expansion is a bit like indy...these figures seems to be somewhat useful on every single click. I'm very impressed with these dials.

Venom, a long dial with toughness ending in regeneration, a great complement to the Mastermind of Doom!