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I guess people should start throwing in their descriptions per archetype (esp. those who revolutionized it) and maybe you can get the best description from the pool.
Actually, the wooden shoes were brought to the Netherland by the Saracens in about 800 A.D when that culture was flourishing and extending its trade into what would become Europe. However, the Saracens stopped using the wooden shoes because their camels had a hard time with the laces.
Later the French tried to copy the design ( and change the name from kloggs to sabots ) and manufacture them in unsafe working conditions during the early Industrial revolution. However the poorly manufactured shoes kept falling off the workers' feet into the machinery. The mechanics of the time did not want to admit that the machines that broke down did so on a regular basis any ways, ( which helped with the security of their job BTW) so the mechanics reported they kept finding wooden shoes in the machinery. Because the owners of the factories did not want to admit that they had a poor design, they claimed that the workers had mal-formed feet, and were not good workers. In fact, the owners claimed that the workers with the poorly formed feet did not like working and were throwing the shoes into the machinery to cause the break downs. Hence the name saboteuers.
The mechanics at this point kept silent because they wanted job security.
A similar cycle has been occurring in the computer industry with the shocking rise in the number or computer desk top technicians currently employed to run around offices re-installing destop O/S and printer files. We are currently hiring 2 more next Monday.
During the Industrial revolution, there was a movement to create wooden soldiers with dials and statistics on the circular base of each individual wooden soldier, but unfortunately, the bases were glued on instead of pinned on, so the bases did not rotate and the whole concept did not fly. Later, in the last years of the 20th century, an American uncovered a lost manuscript that had been translated into Arabic from French telling the truth about the origins of the wooden shoes and the wooden toys. The Saracens had actually had working models of the circular based toy soldiers. All the wooden ones did not survive the ages since the 800's, but the American actually did purchase a pair of ancient soldiers carved from jade, with the circular bases actually working. One soldier was a Saracen, and the other was a Knights Hospitalier. When the American inventor gave the artifacts to his children to play with, the ancient figures broke. Sensing an opportunity the American inventor marketed the idea, but with the brilliant difference that the figurines should be made out of plastic so that they would not break quite so easily. From all apparent rumours, the idea is successful, and the figures are currently consumed by people who don't usually wear wooden shoes.
None of this is from the Encycopediac Limited Edition of the Oxford English Dictionary. My Dutch Grandfather ( a Van der Vis) told this to me.
True PM's and searches work, but that can take a long time looking through every post on the tactic, I have looked for hours reading post returned in a search and gotten nothing valuable, this would save time, and be a lot easier
Okay, yeah, whoa, maybe I shouldn't have made the wooden shoes crack... It was a joke guys, come on, have some fun, like flatlander. No need to "actually..." everything. And, as for the internet, I thought that Al Gore invented that. ¿Muy interesante, no? Oh well, guess I was wrong again...:rolleyes:
I've always had problem looking for the definitions of all these archetypes.... isn't MK just about playing.... who cares what it's called, or who thinks he thought of it first.... it's just a matter of combining strengths and reducing weaknesses....
I'm new to MK, and I'd been looking for ways to explore the strategies. The archetypes are similar to the stuff chess players have done for years, with standard openings that allows more advanced players to communicate ideas quickly, and gives new players a good starting point.
And if nothing else, since we have to go up against these strategies all the time, it's nice to know what they are, even if we don't use them.
Personally, I think it's a great idea to list the archetypes, figures used, and the rest of the stuff listed by ArmyC. I'm no newbie, but I haven't come across some of these army types yet. Too small of a venue, you see.
Even if new archetypes pop up with every new expansion set, then those could be added onto the list as they become popular. Old archetypes die hard, though: AG cheese has been around for a while, since Demi-Maguses, Maguses, and Storm Golems were in the Rebellion set.
So, if someone knowledgeable would be willing to undertake this project, you have my support; I just don't know enough about them for it to be reasonable for me to do it.
BTW: Isn't 'Swiss' the name for a 'Swiss Army' that's built to be a nonspecialist-specialist that can supposedly hold its own with any of the archetypes like ML/Ram, Swarm, Stonethrower/Striker, etc?
Originally posted by ShadowDeth I think it's a horrible idea, and I hope it never comes to fruition.
The "Tank"? "Fling and Ping"? "Swiss"? "Ga"?
Jesus christ man, and you want to confuse new players with stupid buzzwords that only people on this board use to make themselves feel important?
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WHY WOULD THAT HELP ANYONE?
hmmm. It's my opinion people who use these "buzzwords" cannot play the game.
I use these "buzzwords". Are you suggesting I cannot play the game? The only man in the world with a winning record against me is the World Champion... and I cannot play the game because I use jargon? The World Champion uses "buzzwords". Can he play the game? I think that everyone I have played at top level competition uses "buzzwords". Perhaps none of us can play the game.
I cannot see any reason why anyone would get so upset with the use of jargon in a game. If discussing something which people can recognise with the use of simple names rather than relisting the entire army, then I can see no problem with it.
I wonder why SD has such a huge problem with this.