BY GOD, I know the LoA will be AWESOME an entire WEEK EARLY!!! I am so SPECIAL!!




For the love of God, who cares? Spoilers don't change the cards coming out and they don't make the cards legal any earlier.

well ppl didnt just get the spoiler for 1 and if you've had it for a while you have an advantage over any1 who hasnt since you can test wit the cards etccccccccccccccccccc.

You have most of a month to test the cards before the set becomes legal. If you intend to compete with these cards an extra week isn't going to make a difference. If you're any good you can tell what cards are going to be constructed-worthy and what cards aren't within two days of seeing them anyway.

Can't we just ignore him?

some people just refuse to believe.

and warwolf why do you think they stopped letting top players playtest in magic? score prevents all their players taht playtest from playing the game they playtest. hell i've had some spoilers for dbz way before most people did and i can tell you its a huge help and theres no "if you are good" you can tell if a card is good in a few days. theres such things as "sleepers" such as every1 who played magic thought tooth and nail was another crap rare until gabriel nassif made a good deck with it, it took a while before people saw ravager was insane. took even longer for disciple of the vault. also when magic was newer people didnt even play wrath of god because it killed your own creatures. i could go on also with other card games but you get the point.

but in the end it may not matter to you warwolf but to people who play competitively im sure it does.

Just be patient, man.

I'm anxious out the ass, too. I can't wait to see what this set will have. Eventually, all will be revealed.

It already looks way better than Web of Spidey.

A new 3, or 4-drop would be drop dead dope. I also agree though with some kind of card adv device, we'll see. Hey where is that preview!?!? :(

I do play competitively. I have 36 PC points at the moment, and I still think that the advantage is minor. I'm not saying there isn't an advantage--obviously there is. But on the other hand, it's not in UDE's best interest to allow leaks to happen, and if they find out about one, they're going to close it. Posting on Realms and whining is not going to change the fact that the spoilers are out there, the fact that some players have them and some don't, and the fact that UDE's policy toward leaks isn't going to change.

Do you think that T&N would have been found (or exposed) a week earlier if Nassif had the spoiler a week earlier? I don't. Decks get saved for major tournaments--that's the nature of the beast. Do you think the same about Ravager? Do you think that there were people who thought Ravager was insane and picked up four at the prerelease? Did you know enough to believe these people when they told you how good it was?

Or how about Tog? A Psychatog deck won States in Virginia shortly after Odyssey came out. Did these people have access to the spoiler a week early? Would people have come up with Tog if only they'd had a spoiler a week before the prerelease a month ago? I sure as hell don't think so.

Disciple of the Vault isn't even a good example. The Vault Ninja became good when Ravager became good--because the two cards have synergy with each other. Vault Ninja didn't get discovered until Darksteel BECAUSE HE WASN'T GOOD BEFORE.

If you have tech, you have it because you found it and hoarded it until the next tournament. It's not because you found it the night before and slapped a deck together--if the tech was good enough that night-before deckbuilding is going to win you a tournament, it's definitely not a secret. If it's good tech and you find it, you'll spend the time to work it up before the next major event. That is the way things work. A week gives you a chance to consider the spoiler and maybe proxy up a few decks--if you're lucky and/or sneaky enough to have a spoiler--and you'll get in a few days of testing. If not, get your ass to work and you can come up with the same conclusions.

Hell, having the spoiler early can even be a disadvantage. In a new format, you may overshoot the metagame. What if you've had the Marvel spoiler for two weeks and figured out that TNB is bad and you won't have to worry about it, so you build decks without thinking about TNB. Eventually this happened--but it didn't happen for at least a month after the release. In the meantime, your ahead-of-the-tech-curve deck gets beat again and again by a 'bad deck' that you knew enough to discount.

actually disciple was good BEFORE ravager it was used in the japanese version of affinity with atog ornithopter and those 3 cc artifacts with affinity. the deck even almost top 8 in a extended PT. and it didnt run a single extended card i dont think.

and i was talking about "non obvious" goodness and you turn it into it wasnt because of spoilers. since there are no early spoilers in magic its kindof hard to find out what would happen if people had them...

and.... who will have advantage at gencon in 10k... people who've had the spoiler for at least a month before every1 else or the people who have seen the cards 2 weeks prior to the 10k?

its all about time issues. i bet you some1 who has played with the cards for 2 month would have a better tweaked version of a deck then some1 who has played with the cards for a month. its the SAME reason superman isnt legal for the PC. because americans will have alot more time to play with the cards then any1 else.

umm...could you stop using the number "1" to replace the word "one". it's kind of annoying. thanks.

yes dad.

What about my poor gotham knights? :)

Please don't forget us!

LoA needs some more low drop characters to help with the loyalty issue, or just more drops that don't require loyalty. It's very hard to team them up with anyone because you need so many LoA characters to satisfy the loyalty requirement. Some more higher drops (6 and 7) wouldn't hurt either.

Disciple wasn't that good b4 Ravager came out, it was used in vaultatog, but that deck wasn't very good... Ravager also isn't a good example of a sleeper, it was one of those cards that people were lookin at ever since Wizards spoiled it...

apparently you dont play magic online =/ "vaultatog" was good =/. and ravager is a good sleeper card... the card was worth 3 bucks for a long time. and i could go to mtgnews right now and look at every1s top 10 lists and c/p them and you wouldnt see ravager even near #1.

and lets say ravager isnt a good example of a sleeper card. do you want me to give 9939393 more examples? cus i know of PLENTY more that i didnt name.