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Originally posted by Cronos
Did he lose the 10k cause he played flying Kick and No man ?
No, he lost because he was playing a bad deck!
"With...
* Call to Arms
* Trial by Fire
* Mega-Blast
is that additional +1 really that critical?"
The problem with most of those cards is all the stunts you have to pull to make them good. Hell, all you gotta do is run Mega-blast for any length of time to see how TERRIBLE it is compared to savage.
All that being said, with Null time zone out, and the brand new new IG Luthor (3), Wonder Woman (4) and such, it's entirely possible that SB could be hated out of the meta over pumps that can be played at any time if any of the new stuff is good enough for GA.
Oh, and I think the most overrated cards are Cap(6) or Monica Rambleau, take your pick.
About Savage: I don't think you can overrate a card that's that simple. You use the tool that is best suited to the situation. If the situation is 'big combat pump' Beatdown can't be overrated, as it's the best one. Just because there are other cards that are almost as good doesn't mean that Beatdown is somehow not the best.
beatdown is indeed the best. i don't think "overrated" is the term you are looking for. "overpriced" perhaps, arguably. if you are on a budget then there is probably better things to spend 150 dollars on than a playset of beatdowns. but not overrated.
anyway, to answer the OP... what do I think is the most overrated card... to be honest I'm not sure I can think of one. most cards people think are good are good for a reason. I would possibly say Weapon Of Choice but I'm not sure anyone even thinks that is good any more.
Originally posted by in_somniac No, he lost because he was playing a bad deck!
* Mega-Blast
is that additional +1 really that critical?"
Hell, all you gotta do is run Mega-blast for any length of time to see how TERRIBLE it is compared to savage.
Mega-blast can actually be quite good. The fact it GIVES you range means you can throw a sucker punch with a character your opponent did not expect to attack with. This can break up initiatives badly.
I've most often seen this done with Invisible Woman 4-drop who hides at the back, gives you reinforcement. This in itself is not a surprising move, so opponents may not expect her to mega-blast into someone and 10/8 will take down most 4 drops without stunning back.
Where mega-blast falls down is the fact that you cannot use it mid-combat on someone in the front row. This is such a bad ability that it makes me hate the card whenever it occurs.
A better solution and a card which would definately make my top 10 underrated cards is Combat Reflexes. This has the power of giving 'virtual' range like mega-blast and can be played on front row attackers.
This is assuming you don't have the beatdowns. Or want to run extra pumps and have run out of No Mans
Well unless there is a reprint for SB, it's definitely going to take an impact on price. With golden age only coming once per year and various 10k's, we should see a big drop in demand.
Originally posted by Uno Well unless there is a reprint for SB, it's definitely going to take an impact on price. With golden age only coming once per year and various 10k's, we should see a big drop in demand.
There might be an immediate drop, but over the long term it'll continue to rise. Up till its curent renaissance, Type I wasn't played in any significant numbers, but Power didn't drop in value. The situation isn't entirely analogous, but so long as new players continue to come into the game there'll be players who want Savages.
In fact, a reprint would be more likely to hurt the value than help it, as at this point much of the value of SB comes from the fact that it's not easy to get.
Originally posted by GodsSon^^ I dont mean this to sound like a smart coment but, its pretty obvious that the only reason the Supreme decks have it is so they can clear their hands at will.
Not because its a better Plot Twist.
Its the 1/1000.
And i read the coverage.
I never said Mega Blast was better than Beatdown. It isn't. It's far too limited to be. You said originally it wasn't a good card. Then implied it was so bad it would be impossible to find two top 8 decklists that used Megablast. Two were in the PC _this_ very weekend. Of course they used it to empty their hand. That's the point. The card has a purpose. It empties their hand AND gives +4 attack. That makes it a good card. Meaning you're wrong.
Not to be a smart ass, but to quote That 70's Show, "Buurn!"
null time zone is over rated
it only works if u know what their win condition is so orginal decks can catch it off gaurd and even if u know their win condition most decks should have a backup just in case
null time zone is not that overrated. I dont like the card that much, and I dont even use it...but I will acknowledge that it is a good card. The SOURCE was the most overrated card.
I don't think the source was that overrated. It's not as good as it looks at first, but it's mostly held back by the team it's stamped for. Personally I think weapon of choice was the most overrated. People said it was the going to be the greatest rare ever (more or less), but it really sucks.
Originally posted by in_somniac No, he lost because he was playing a bad deck!
"With...
* Call to Arms
* Trial by Fire
* Mega-Blast
is that additional +1 really that critical?"
The problem with most of those cards is all the stunts you have to pull to make them good. Hell, all you gotta do is run Mega-blast for any length of time to see how TERRIBLE it is compared to savage.
All that being said, with Null time zone out, and the brand new new IG Luthor (3), Wonder Woman (4) and such, it's entirely possible that SB could be hated out of the meta over pumps that can be played at any time if any of the new stuff is good enough for GA.
Oh, and I think the most overrated cards are Cap(6) or Monica Rambleau, take your pick.
He made it to the top 8 of a 10k it must not suck that bad.
Do you ever consider some decks may wish to use an attack pump before turn 4? Do you realize megablast gives the attack and range for the turn ?
Savage Beatdown is a good card but the hype around it is retarded. Its also not the end all attack pump thats required in every deck.