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i am pretty sure everyone here has taken a standardized test and knows that they call times and give warnings to help warn you.
But what do they always tell you? Have a watch, budget your own time. For a man of MJ's experience with such an impressive resume, he should have known better.
When I play at another premiere event, I'll bring my own timer. When the judge starts the time, I'll start my timer and I'll know how much time there is left in the round. This will work regardless of whether or not I can see the match clock.
I will prepare myself and, if I am unable to complete the match in the designated time one of three things happened: a) I played too slow . . . which is likely going to be the majority of the time; b) my opponent slow played me . . . and should this happen, a judge will have been called at the 10 minutes laft mark and asked to watch the pace of play and to encourage the other player to play at a more reasonable pace or c) a time warp occured, we passed near a black hole, or some other stress occured on the space-time continuum.
This is not to say what should or shouldn't have happened at the Jacob/Wijaya match, only what I will do if I am in the same position to prevent it happening at one of my matches.
MJ: before you decided on the deck obviously you tested it - from this I am sure you realised it has complexities, and, since you should go into a tournament prepared (i.e. aware of how long rounds last, comfortable with deck choice), why play a deck that you aren't fast enough to keep within the time restrictions? seems like a bad, or more likely, overconfident decision.
I have had my share of playing complicated decks, but I have had test parteners abandon playing them due to awareness that they may drag games to time (whilst incomplete) - their decision has been respected.
Perhaps you didn't test enough? regardless, shifting the blame here is not something respectable, most people will just remember the time MJ stalled himself out of wins, then 'whined' at judges. image change perhaps? I hope at least that in your reflections on San Fran you have concluded that you made errors in play/deck choice.
Originally posted by Ks-ap MJ: ...most people will just remember the time MJ stalled himself out of wins, then 'whined' at judges. image change perhaps?
Yeah, you have to protect your image.
Most people will remember the time Ks-ap ignoratly hated on an entire country for no reason. Not likely to win him friends.
Any event I have ever played in, I coudl very easily call the judge(s) and ask how much time was left. Thats all it takes. No one needs to hand hold anyone.
Also... now maybe I am some mathematical savant or something (and I AM NOT...) but even playing the most complex Fantastic Fun, or this new deck, or any child lock, or any X-Faces... or even Witching Hour, turns NEVER take me too long. And they shouldn't.
If you don't know your deck well enough to play at a reasonable pace, that is NOT the deck to play. It is nobodies fault but that player for choosing a deck they were not fast enough with. All the staring into space, or scribbling notes, or doing mental gymnasitc... can people really be so slow to make the same decisions you make with a deck day in and day out?
Ok, you have differrent choices, but a deck normally follows the same basic strategies in each and every game. The discard decks are even more one dimensional. And playing it enough... even a week or two... you shoudl have the basic patterns down to where you can play the turns quickly no matter the match you face.
Further, how many games against a Equip or Rush type deck was played the day before to know the basic strategies? It doesn't often matter what card is in the opponents hand, just how many.
.... ok, I am ranting... but this is just unbelievable. The deck is designed to go for time wins when it can. Glock was designed to get a win on Endurance when time is called. Doom often stalled out and won on endurance count after time is called. they aren;t particularly hard to play, they are purposely played slow.
Witching Hour.... the single most complicated deck style to play in the game. Even with that your whole decision process shoudl not take mroe than 5 minutes on your critical turn. If it does, you haven't played it enough, or are purposely slowing things down for a time win.
lol Kairos, at least that isn't entirely true. The states is a dump (in appearance for the most part), and I have been there (i.e. it doesn't radiate ignorance).
-What is fo sho is that Nobody will remember Kairos, who does the place he is defending from nothing no favours etall.
Originally posted by Ks-ap lol Kairos, at least that isn't entirely true. The states is a dump (in appearance for the most part), and I have been there (i.e. it doesn't radiate ignorance).
-What is fo sho is that Nobody will remember Kairos, who does the place he is defending from nothing no favours etall.
that's a really big whine for a pro Vs. player. If you can't play your deck and finish 3 matches within 2 1/2 hours, get another deck, it's not for you. Simple as that.
I have no idea who said I was given multiple warnings for slow, as I was given absolutely none. I was given exactly four statements about the time. Note these all occured at the beginning of each game.
Game 1: You have 150 minutes, you can begin
Game 2: We are a little slow here, game 1 took 60 minutes.
Game 3: We have about thirty minutes left, but we all took breaks in between rounds, so let's say forty minutes left for this game. (frighteningly arbitrary)
Game 3 turn 6 which was going to end in two minutes (giving me the win) : And that is time in the round.
No other warnings were given.
Such statements about time being an issue with deck choice are ignorant statements from the uninformed. When you are playing for 40,000 you play slowly, methodically, giving yourself all the oppourtunites to stomp out mistakes mentally before they happen. Could you POSSIBLY live it down if a mistake cost you that much money (as I do in game 2)?
To respond about whether to put amsterdam or JLoA in the resource row turn four, you speak from a place of considerable ignorance. I needed ten cards in my KO pile to activate deadshot that turn, and amsterdam requires an xmen in play to use, while JloA does not. I was going through the various loops I would need to jump through to get to 10 cards, and reviewing whether I would play archangel that turn (I don't believe I did). The entire match hinged on my getting 10 cards in the KO pile AND still having a resource for the next turn, so I was justified in taking the 90 seconds I did in placing my resource.
You can also look at the tournament rules on what players need to bring to a tournament, and I see nowhere on there "A TIME KEEPING DEVICE AS A BACK UP POLICY IF YOU ARE NOT INFORMED OF TIME".
spose it is fair that you don't read other's posts (you get a lot of noobs spouting bs), but do you regret playing a deck you couldn't pilot properly under the pressure (from the large $$ mistakes), and the time limits of the top 8?
Originally posted by DarkestMage Such statements about time being an issue with deck choice are ignorant statements from the uninformed. When you are playing for 40,000 you play slowly, methodically, giving yourself all the oppourtunites to stomp out mistakes mentally before they happen. Could you POSSIBLY live it down if a mistake cost you that much money (as I do in game 2)?
part of being a good player is being able to play within the restraints of the tournament. You KNOW going into the event exactly how much time you're going to have to play your game. The PC requires that you be able to complete your games within a reasonable amount of time, and if you can't do that, you weren't the better player and didn't deserve to advance. It's not Vidi's fault that his deck takes a fraction of the time to run, and that you can't make decisions fast enough to play your deck properly. Blaming UDE for your loss might comfort you, but no one else is buying it.
Originally posted by Ks-ap lol Kairos, at least that isn't entirely true. The states is a dump (in appearance for the most part), and I have been there (i.e. it doesn't radiate ignorance).
-What is fo sho is that Nobody will remember Kairos, who does the place he is defending from nothing no favours etall.
I know many people from England that enjoy the country side in the US. Kentucky, Ohio, Pennsylvania and the like. I do keep them from Jeresy on the other hand, so who knows how they would react if they got to see both sides of the coin.
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Game 2: We are a little slow here, game 1 took 60 minutes.
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This still floors me. Even stalling out for later rounds and making it to drop 8, 30 minutes is more than enough time. If I can't think about what I am going to do a step a head of time, or while the person I am playing is setting his first card down, then something is wrong. Taking 60 minutes for one game, I think I would take naps till it was my turn to do something.