Empath can be beat. Quick Fate can be beat. Moloids can be beat. Just beat them.

But then they lose out on all the quality attention from the audience.

Won't happen anytime soon, that's for sure.

Ego Gem enables the "draw your deck by 5" deck to exceed. Also, if you've tested a lot for Silver or some in Modern, you can see how it can be problematic to be able to infinitely do that. Ego Gem+The Order+Cosmic Radiation+Harvey Bullock+Mind Gem+Fate Artifacts=holy crap.

Quicksilver isn't a degenerate deck, it's fine. It can be beaten by teching some cards. It's not like Ivy League, TDC Stall (V 2.5), or Light Show where it's either tech heavily against it or play it. When several CC's have all Quicksilver top 4's, then we can try and find a problem, so far, I'm seeing much more diversity than that. So, for right now, we're cool.

Btw, Canada's better.


Coolexplosion

Quickfate is a very focused deck that relies heavily on ONE character doing multiple combat oriented tricks. It has little to no noncombat answers to anything, and folds to well timed Level 12s/Deadshots/Mad hatters. Believe it or not, they dont always get quickie with all 3 artifacts on turn 2.

"Infinite" or arbitrarily large combos that occur after turn 4 are not a problem, as most people can disrupt a strategy that slow. Light show (though, when it was legal, it was'nt very consistant because of crappy tutors) was a turn too fast for sanity.

Oh, and overload should be unbanned. Having it legal in golden would curb flamethrower wielders and random quicksilvers, and I highly, highly doubt anyone will run Beatdown/Overload simply because its too clunky and hardly worth it. Overload is an outdated card for a metagame past that simply has no bearing on todays golden age.

Tech against your Meta.

CC

CANADA SUCKS

AMERICA #### YEAH!!

How would overload not be a 4 of in most decks? and if you think SNO was too clunky i must ask how long have you played VS?

I say turn 5 because the deck can nearly 100% of the time draw it's deck by turn 5. The game is usually won on 4, maybe even 3. The deck is enabled by 3. The problem is, the deck could be at as low as possible and still win. Just stay alive and the deck will prevail.


Coolexplosion

Oh, I've been playing vs since Marvel Origins. The only reason SNO was banned back then was because it was THE best "noncombat" removal, end of story. But now its severely outclassed in control builds, and aggro builds will not run it because savage beatdown and nasty surprise both suck on their own and overload might make the cut. Curve sentinels will not make a comeback, save god draws with multiple hate cards for the appropriate matches.

Overload is about as powerful as betrayal right now in golden- runnable in decks with extra spaces, but not good enough to fit into tight decks.