I've drawn my deck on turn 6 after flipping Beside Myself on turn 4 (that is, AFTER the draw on turn 4). Both games that I flipped it on turn 4 (hey, I've only opened Beside Myself once). A few extra draw effects (Booze Elementals, The Hook-Up, Oracle, Calender Man - no, I didn't have them all) can go a long way with that card.

Also, the extra consistency Jack gives you? Comes at a cost of being unable to play/draft multiples, which costs you consistency.

Which means you're trying to draft additional power cards on top of Beside Myself (seriously, with the possible exception of Booze Elementals, every card you just named is a top-three pick) to optimize it.

Never mind that yes, I've had games where Beside Myself drew the entire deck on turn 4. I've also had games where Beside Myself didn't draw me an extra card the entire game. That's the nature of coinflips: you can't point to the best scenario as proof that the card is inherently superior to a fixed-effect card.

And Beside Myself does exactly the same thing, so what's your point? Besides, we're talking about Limited here, where drafting multiples tends to be a relatively rare occurrence anyway.

I'd go with Beside Myself, I've played insanity a lot in drafts and it's great.

Hostile takeover.

Only RS card in the pack. Is a usuable ongoing, Forces those next to you to avoid the squad.

Cards that work even better when the rest of your draft is going well are force multipliers. (And getting one copy of one of the higher picks is NOT that unlikely). Plus, it makes good with Booze Elementals, which are not a stellar pick, but let you draw BM more often, which is handy.

I mean, if you get into good GK you have the ginormous Cassandra ftw easily available, but even if you don't, the extra blues... massive card draw is like tutoring, only with more blues along for the ride.

Incidently, mathematically, Beside Myself is +1 card/every instance of cards drawn.


I've drafted multiples a fair bit. I've also seen people struggle with insanity decks precisely because they have to ship the second copy of a common or uncommon that is otherwise what they needed. When it happens, it really hurts.

...look, hitting curve happens often enough sans tutors in limited that I'd really rather take the extra chance of drawing more blues, especially since you can dance with shorter curves in WF limited.

The Hook-Up, Oracle & Calendar Man top 3 picks? Really? ....

And drafting multiples is difficult in limited? You should know better than that, especially given the fact that insanity exists in the format. People will avoid multiple copies of good cards just to enable their mediocre insanity cards.

Id be interested in hearing how many drafts you are basing these points on, and also if the drafts were with chimpanzees...


As for the Jack in the Box Issue, Im going to side with Whamme on this one. Beside Myself is strictly superior to Jack in the box. Firstly, Jack in the box is equally random in that it will not find you a specific card (character or otherwise) but just a card. And let me just draw your attention to this:

And now this:

...

Turns out having a tutor without anything to tutor for is crap. So you would have to draft "power" cards, not even to optimize, but to make it actually work. And if Batsignal were in the pack would you take that over Beside Myself? No, that'd be stupid.

Beside Myself will just win games and no tutor will do that by itself.

End of story =P

Yes, but the point is moot, because we're comparing one Insane card to another. (You certainly can't rely on drafting multiples of anything good, either.)

The point really isn't moot. The point is that Jack in the Box is inferior to Beside Myself and is not a card that would push me into Insanity. I would rather have multiple copies of good cards than single copy of good cards with a half-assed tutor to attempt to find them.

As for drafting multiples in limited, see:
Brash with his 4 x Future shocks
Tim with his 2 x Hush Baby & 2 x Burn Baby Burn
Me with 3 x Birds of a Feather.

=P

yes beside myself is the pick here.

burn baby burn will be missed.

I think supes will be 3rd.