I am NOT a fan of Ultimates (the comics) and I hate that they used the Ultimate Rhino as the sculpt for the REV, but the new Ultimates TA is really looking interesting.

I can hardly wait for the sneak peak. I'm hoping for a member of the Serpent Society, but will happy as long as it isn't one of the Characters that are already confirmed (Spidey, Cap, Ghost Rider, Doc Ock, Wolverine, Punisher).

Here is to hoping for a SP pf either the Lizard, Mysterio, or Electro.

Well, from how it's been worded, apparently the first three expensions, because they are from Infinity Challenge, are given some sort of weird sanctuary from retirement... at least, that's how it seems to be worded. I guess this means that IF we get four booster sets after Universe, then Ultimates would go... bah, I dunno, WizKids is retarded.

That doesn't make sense. Why include Xplosion figs in Universe, if Universe won't be retired???

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That doesn't make sense. Why include Xplosion figs in Universe, if Xplosion won't be retired???

Because Xplosion is sold out, and they want new players to get a chance to get some of the better figs from the set.

I'm really confused by the confusion.

The set retirement will go in order of being released. Infinity Challenge is the first set that will be retired.

Down the line (after Summer?) it will be Clobberin' Times turn.

End of this year - maybe next year - Xplosion will be next.

When a "Universe" set appears for DC, Hypertime will then be retired.

Clobberin Time was sold out a long time ago - so there are no more characters being made. When WK decided to do the Universe thing, they decided to incorporate Infinity Challenge and their next available set - which fell to Xplosion.

CT molds were probably already destroyed so XP was all that was left.

Sold Out and Retirement are two entirely different things. Sold Out means you can't go to a store and buy anymore of them. Retirement means you can't use those figures in a WK sanctioned tournaments (at least ones that don't allow Retired figs).

Retirement doesn't issue in a new set - a new set issues in retirement. Remember, Universe is for new players. These players cannot buy IC, CT, of XP. Universe allows them to get some of the figs that were released in the IC and XP set.

When you are trying to figure stuff out, you have to start at the beginning and work forward - not at the end and go backwards.

Actualy, Sold Out means that retailers can't order them from Wizkids. I can still think of a couple places localy that still have CT boosters in stock.

And you haven't bought them resold them here or on ebay to help out the deprived?!!?

What I am wondering about is the wording "tournament legal for Marvel Heroclix tournaments". Does this mean Infinity Challenge is still legal for Open heroclix tournaments?

It means all of Infinity Challenge is still legal in Open or Marvel Unrestricted tournaments.

what's the news on the big figs and the tourney cycles?

bah...I like the old captain america..except for the Rookie Ultimates version.

I hope they don't jack up Ultimate Hawkeye as badly.

Cap isn't bad...he is just overcosted!! His DV stats are too low.. actually his AV is too high! [I do like the ending 16 DV with support though...almost like Quasar..but for an extra 19 points..Quasar is soooo much more useful.

Spidey looks ok for 31 points

cheers

wes

Not when they're marked up three times the original price. That's the only reason they're still in stock.

Ultimate Hulk and Ultimate Iron Man are in Ultimates set

A guy who just signed up this month says Hulk and Iron Man are in the set, with nothing to back it up with but his own word. Must be true.