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Originally posted by darthnader There's a wild fandango loose in the theater.
Rarrrrr!
haha.
Can you tell him that Mister.....Fandango is here to see him
Anyways, I actually like the sculpt. It actually looks a little bit like Ian McKellan. I'm sure the actually sculpt will look cooler, can't really see the full effect of the blowing cape.
Originally posted by CPUX The only way I could see playing him is by protecting him from outwitters. He's got damage reducing powers to keep him around, but his short dial (for his point value) means if he gets ganged up on by a few shooters and Black Panther, he's another 144 points for your opponent.
Why do people still use the ol' "but if they get outwitted, they're gonna go down easy" argument, especially for high cost figs? This is redundant and common sense, as Outwit can make short work of just about EVERY figure.
Two in the Precision Strike.
One in the Poison.
"Nobody dreams of being a pirate." - Howard Stern
Originally posted by DaLuvster89 You know, now that you mention it, he did look a bit short.
But, I think the main problem is the two-dimensional nature of the pic. I remember being really impressed with his cape, mostly - maybe if you were to hop over to the Wizkids site and use the little rotating arrow thing under their pictures there, you'll see what I mean... Or maybe not...
I'll have to wait until I'm back home, as the filters or some other obstruction where I am don't allow me to see the figures in motion, nor even to rotate them a fraction at a time.
Speed = 5
Attack = 19.5
Defense = 14.5
Force B. = 7
Telekinesis = 36.5
Invulnerability = 18 (or 25. Supposedly a +7 for only being in the first 2 clicks.)
ESD = .5
Enhancement = 16 (or 32. I’m supposed to double total cost if Invulnerability is present)
Brotherhood = 5.6
Total = 123 (or up to 146. 150 if you make him a 2 target character.)
For me, Magneto is all about board control. There are so many things he does in the comics - I just feel this version is just a one note character.
I'll concede this fits an offensive Magneto but I'd have much rather had a rainbow dial of effects.
Where is the Force Blast or Phasing - he does push down walls and fling junk around all the time.
Where is the Pulse Wave, Quake, and Incapacitate. He's always affecting characters that surround him and tying them up in metal girders.
What about Defend? Will any villain besides LE Constrictor ever get it? No ES/D? It sure makes Fate hard to hit. Heck, why not Mastermind and at least Willpower? Does Mag's Force Field really get worn down? I've never seen it. Start with Impervious then switch to something else - Impervious, Invulnerability, and then Toughness - those are Brick powers. Is Magneto really a freaking brick?
I just wanted a Magneto that was the Mutant Master of Magnetism and I think this is just a far reaching Beta-Ray Bill. He'll be good offensively, but I've got a dozen figs that can do the same thing for around the same cost.
I was hoping for a much more creative dial. Oh well...
Visible Dials and Pushing Damage need to be optional. This is the way.
tyroclix, just goes to show that you can't please all the people all the time.
When mags came out in IC LOTS of people complained that he wasn't a powerhouse. So now he's a power house, and clearly some people would prefer he be a strategy piece.
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Anyway, about the sculpt, its actually pretty good. I also saw it at WW East and think its pretty good. And it does definately look better if you can get the full 3D effect.
But, I do remember thinking when I saw it that he did look a little small.
Maybe Ultimate Magneto is just shorter. And perhaps that's why he's such a villian, he's compensating for being little. (although most non-mutants just buy a sports car for that.)
tyroclix, just goes to show that you can't please all the people all the time.
Exactly - and I know I am probably in the minority. When I use a Magneto - I want my defintion of Magneto. Not Thor-lite.
And I (now used to) use the IC version. I thought his stats went down too fast - but he was alright.
I just think this guy is competing with himself. TK is a pure support power and his defense, attack, RS and damage values scream main attacker. He's going to usually come with a TK fig, rather than being the TK fig.
The IC version provided the TK and Leadership and then worked well as a secondary attacker.
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No need to be disappointed. No figure will ever make everyone happy. Some will connect with a majority of players (like Mags does) and some won't (like U Batgirl).
But that's why the come in sets of 96 (or 97). That way there is something for everyone.
I think the U Phoenix (especially if she has that 8 range) is the best U in the set.
Visible Dials and Pushing Damage need to be optional. This is the way.
This is a fantastic Magneto. Incap? Defend? No thanks. I'll take this Magneto who can whomp on the other team from the front lines much like Magneto does. Especially Ultimate Magneto. TK is very useful even in this powerhouse incarnation.
Tossing those brawlers off of him and into your ready team mates is great strategy and effectively true to the charecter. The only thing I don't really get on the dial is Energy Explosion but it can be rationilzed out I guess.
I agree with tyroclix about IC Magneto. I used him too. I used the vet in many teams with the big mag tking out figures first then coming through with a little perplex or enhancement to finish off figures.
This version is a front liner, not the support figure the IC is. That's fine with me too. Magneto has those two sides to him. Calm tactician to reckless attacker. I still like his figure, even the Xorneto figure that is mail away.
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Life goes on, long after the thrill of living is gone.
Tossing those brawlers off of him and into your ready team mates is great strategy and effectively true to the charecter.
Certainly a viable option - although I wonder how often it will be used that then dishing out 4 clicks of damage.
Regardless, when I heard Magneto was in the set (and being a big fan of the character), I was hoping for a figure that could occupy a position more like Green Lantern (who gives you TK, damage, Barrier, flight, WP, etc) who can attack and be great support fig rather than a figure who fills the same niche as Ultimate Iron Man, Beta-Ray Bill, E Thor, U Captain Marvel, Super-Skrull, Annihilius and even Terrax and Silver Surfer.
But, hey - most players are stoked and that's the important thing. There are enough good figs for everyone to have their favorite.
Visible Dials and Pushing Damage need to be optional. This is the way.