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Simple??? You mean obscure if you didn't read X-51 (or are not a fan of Machine Man)...anyway Cassie Merrick was the leader of the cyborg group the Road Warriors (yet another "original" Marvel name) and she was killed by her bodyguard Marko (not to be confused with the Juggernaut...but he was also a cyborg if I remember correctly)
Simple??? You mean obscure if you didn't read X-51 (or are not a fan of Machine Man)...anyway Cassie Merrick was the leader of the cyborg group the Road Warriors (yet another "original" Marvel name) and she was killed by her bodyguard Marko (not to be confused with the Juggernaut...but he was also a cyborg if I remember correctly)
Yes, Marko was indeed the killer. He originally had been her bodyguard and he's not to be confused with Flint Marko, AKA - The Sandman.
The thread is yours, Knightwraithe.
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Po-tay-to, po-tah-to......
That's telling him, CuCr. Even if you do seem a bit Dan Quayle-ish.
Well, "Flint Marko" is not the Sandman's actual name; it's an alias he assumed when he began his life of crime, to conceal said life from his mother.
What about Man-Mountain Marko, one-time bodyguard to Silvermane? Same name, same occupation...same guy?
I know Flint's not his real name. That was also a trivia question many many moons ago.
In the Marvel universe, with the way things are going with retcon's, for all you know, Quesada's plan is for it turn out every one is related to each other.
And if you've heard what the retcon's are going to be like for the golden age characters, you'd start to worry about how true that might be.
I know Flint's not his real name. That was also a trivia question many many moons ago.
In the Marvel universe, with the way things are going with retcon's, for all you know, Quesada's plan is for it turn out every one is related to each other.
And if you've heard what the retcon's are going to be like for the golden age characters, you'd start to worry about how true that might be.
This is exactly why I ignore them and for the most part don't buy them anymore.
It has become somewhat like fashion - love your 60's bell-bottoms? Hold onto them, they'll be back in style again!
Love your Silver Age continuity? Hold on, the current group of hacks will eventually move on and a new group will come in and bring it back!
If not, just continue to ignore them and don't buy their ####!
Brand New Day my big fat butt!
Je Suis Charlie!
"Do all the good you can, by all the means you can, in all the ways you can, to all the people you can, as long as ever you can." John Wesley
Name the three characters who have emerged from the Enclave's cocoon(s) - and to clarify...I don't mean characters that have come from those characters, e.g - NOT Magus...I mean characters directly "hatched" by the Enclave.
As for Marvel's ret-conning of their Golden Age stuff...while it's kind of nice that Marvel is finally actually trying to integrate their old/Timely stuff...I find it sad that Marvel has to constantly turn to it's past (and to muck about with it) in order to try to make a decent story rather than moving forward towards good stories now and in the future...by messing around so much with/in their past, all they end up doing is destroying characters and making the entire Marvel Universe a total mess and a joke rather than the greatness of "The Marvel Age of Comics" that it once was...
This is exactly why I ignore them and for the most part don't buy them anymore.
It has become somewhat like fashion - love your 60's bell-bottoms? Hold onto them, they'll be back in style again!
Love your Silver Age continuity? Hold on, the current group of hacks will eventually move on and a new group will come in and bring it back!
If not, just continue to ignore them and don't buy their ####!
Brand New Day my big fat butt!
Yeah, I know. But now they're eating away at the Golden Age stuff. One or two characters is one thing, like Cap being frozen in ice or the Red Skull being in suspended animation for awhile. But they never did come up with an excuse that worked for frozen Bucky. Cap's was that he had the super-soldier serum that helped preserve him. Bucky didn't have that.
And that's just one thing, but now, changes are a coming for other Golden Agers.
Name the three characters who have emerged from the Enclave's cocoon(s) - and to clarify...I don't mean characters that have come from those characters, e.g - NOT Magus...I mean characters directly "hatched" by the Enclave.
Adam Warlock (aka-Him), Kismet (aka- Her and Paragon) and later they created another Warlock, but female, I think her name was Delta, or that she was never given a name. They also built a robot named "Remote".
As for Marvel's ret-conning of their Golden Age stuff...while it's kind of nice that Marvel is finally actually trying to integrate their old/Timely stuff...I find it sad that Marvel has to constantly turn to it's past (and to muck about with it) in order to try to make a decent story rather than moving forward towards good stories now and in the future...by messing around so much with/in their past, all they end up doing is destroying characters and making the entire Marvel Universe a total mess and a joke rather than the greatness of "The Marvel Age of Comics" that it once was...
I agree completely. From my perspective, so much retconning, and plenty of "reinvention" (I've come to hate that word) is just an effort to pass off bad stories. Writers attach a story that wouldn't be worth reading on its own or if it was written using an original character to an existing character or a classic character, in an attempt to get a "rub" off of that character's nostalgia value or reputation. And, in the process, they ultimately end up ruining both character and continuity.
"Retcon" and "reinvention" are the bywords of a slash-and-burn attitude towards comics.
Any retroactive change they care to make, I can ignore at my pleasure. It won't affect the stories I know and love in the slightest.
I took the same attitude toward the post-Crisis DC Universe. They said Wonder Woman was never in the Justice League of America*? Well, I have boxes and boxes of comics that say otherwise. And I always will.
Any retroactive change they care to make, I can ignore at my pleasure. It won't affect the stories I know and love in the slightest.
I took the same attitude toward the post-Crisis DC Universe. They said Wonder Woman was never in the Justice League of America*? Well, I have boxes and boxes of comics that say otherwise. And I always will.
*And yes, I know they've back-pedaled on that.
OK, just to stray off Marvel with you for a moment -
the very idea that DC can decide to "change" who the original members of the JLA were - when many of us have the early issues of the JLA, and even MORE have the reprints of those issues - is just such incredible hubris that it boggles the mind!
Now I guess Marvel (back on topic!) is going to tell us different origins of Golden Age characters some of us have known since before these hack writers were born?
Ugh!
Je Suis Charlie!
"Do all the good you can, by all the means you can, in all the ways you can, to all the people you can, as long as ever you can." John Wesley
If it makes anybody feel better all these retcons are just Sentry dreams used to make it feel like he fits in. When he is killed off everything will go back to normal continuity and it will be found out that Joephisto himself doesn't actualy exist but was created by Abbnet to make his books look good.