Apocalypse in the AoA was committing Genocide. Hitler was committing Genocide.

Norman's being a d*ck. There's no crime in being a d*ck.

I always see comics as black and white, if the super heroes are not being heoric they usually turn out to be evil by the end of the series.

or under evil influences

Wow, that was fast.

And hey, thanks to some folks being on the ball, three draft picks are up. The clock is rolling!

Well, ok. They aren't evil yet .

Dude... seriously, if your team has Bullseye and Venom on it, the only way to claim neutral is if you're keeping them under control. DA aren't even keeping them under control, just telling them to not get caught if they kill. So they kill in large numbers.

Haha, ok, but does it matter? You're a villain, you chose villain. They can kill anyone they want, that's how the military is written in comics most of the time. I just don't see them as blowing up the world villains. I see them as weapons. weapons aimed in directions with the intent to save humanity. I fail to see the difference between these dark avengers and the Authority, other than pre disposed notions that Bullseye, the Green Goblin and Moon Stone are evil. Since the inception of the Dark Avengers, I haven't seen them do anything evil, except a freaking insane amount of collateral damage and side killings, none of which were 'OK'd' by their team.

The Dark Avengers, as a team, have stopped Morgan Le Faye, stopped an Atlantean Terrorist Cell, halted a human/mutant riot, and put the beat down on a frost giant.

Bullseye's killed a few people, Venom's eaten a few people, and they've caused a WHOLE bunch of collateral damage.

Like, I get that they're gonna turn evil. but other than Marketing, other than 'oh, they're eeeeeevvvvilllll', what have they done? They, as Avengers, since becoming Avengers, what have they done that's so evil?

Marvel heroes, the Commissioner is looking for some new recruits. PM me regarding potential trades.

Woot! Got Mystique back! Was so worried she'd get picked up in a core. Was worried all those stats enough for 3 upgrades would've been wasted. ; )

Anyone have a figure that they kinda forgot about, and then looking through the units section, see off hand, re think about, and then realize that that figure fits your plans perfectly and you get impossibly energized for the rest of the season, and begin to pray it works out?

Whenever I have other people to handle (RPSC, HCFL), I always put my own aspect of it on the back burner. Now that I have a moment to focus on the defenders: "OMG SO EXCITED".

I think somebody saw Howard the Duck's dial again!

or someone forgot Hawkeye was on the Thunderbolts *rolls eyes*

Here is how I see the Dark X-Men:

Emma - Working with Norman so that mutants don't get screwed over by him, and doing some good at the same time.
Mimic - Signing up with a government team to do good (and maybe bury his past a bit.)
Cloak & Dagger - Signing up with a government team to do good (and bury their records.)
Namor - Emma's choice to back her if things go wrong, and he hasn't really been to evil in a while
Draken, Dark Beast, and Mystique - You got me there they are bad guys.

Ultimately I see the good intentions of the team out weighing the bad.

So killing is not illegal now??? Ig you kill someone in the face of a battle but the flat out murder oif Swordsman, the attempt on Songbird and Dr Samson and doping up Robbie full of drugs. I agree not Hitler evil but still truly evil in my book
To me Ares is truly Neutal. Sure he is helping out now but he has been evil for 9/10 of his career and the only reason he joined was to protect his son. To me he is like Shade

Is Draken a bad guy?? I read soem stuff with him and wasnt sure if he bad or just a guy who is easily manipulated and thinks he is doing good but is doing bad

I don't recall Ares before he showed up in Mighty Avengers, but he seems like he is truly into this hero thing.

I might want to kill Logan if he were my father. I hate Wolverine, but I'm pretty sure that unprovoked patricide qualifies as evil.