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Sloonei an Jack were curious about my impressions. My impression of Quebbs is pure meta; he's usually louder as town and quieter as scum, and I thought he was on the quiet side day one.
Being less on board for pressure may be the holidays, maybe it's because he's scum.
This was a glib non answer.
As I said, all just cursory first impressions.
Better adamical post. This is where I realize quotes-within-quotes are not a thing.
Quote : Originally Posted by The Darkstone
1. I have no real suspects for town or mafia. Though I am curious to see how Sloonei's non HCR-mafia thinking would apply to our games here.
2. I'll do what I always do. Muddle along.
3. I am town, and I know 100% that none of you have any information to the contrary.
Not sure why Darkstone felt the need to state the highlighted portion. I don't recall seeing anyone claim information against him, though the thread is a bit of a cluster and I could have overlooked something.
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Taking a moment to state that I barely remember Afrcngy is a player in this game and was only reminded when my predecessor left him yellow in a rainbow list.
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The Grinner vote looks like it should be viewed as a mislynch from the perspective of what the Mafia would have been doing. At a glance, Quebb' vote appears the least inspired because I have the least distinct memory of his justification. The others appeared more engaged in discussing their vote and communicating with Grinner.
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Reminder to self to make a priority of checking Immortal_Raven's ISO to verify his posts show actual hunting effort instead of idle mechanical chatter.
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Quote : Originally Posted by killingjoke101
Whoever the town RBer or JKer is, I am willing to bet that you RB'd/JK'd either Mafia or the SK last night.
Kind of ick for reasons I cannot clearly formulate. Seems like a mafioso blabbing his internal thoughts into the thread.
Quote : Originally Posted by killingjoke101
I suppose I should have rethought my approach on that. I'm the vigilante. I killed Destructoboy last night. I was doubled (I am assuming that was the gift that Afrcngy gave me yesterday), but I chose not to use it. My initial intent was to attempt to kill Grinner if we lynched Dboy, so I flip flopped. Night 1 I elected to NOT make a kill and we see just the SK and mafia making the kill.
There is even a different killer N2 as displayed by the whip in the write up.
Okay, an explanation exists. Give KJ credit for producing this claim so quickly as he did, though I am less thrilled that it came on the backside of two votes for him. Have we determined whether this vigilante is infinite or finite shot?
Got anything to say about his other points against you?
What points? That he thinks I'm scum based on things I said day 1 that I've already defended? That's not a point that's a feeling that's tainted by votes that are already on me.
I understand you guys come from a different school of the game, but you're using logic that doesn't translate perfectly here. I play differently then you're used to and getting flack for it.
What points? That he thinks I'm scum based on things I said day 1 that I've already defended? That's not a point that's a feeling that's tainted by votes that are already on me.
I understand you guys come from a different school of the game, but you're using logic that doesn't translate perfectly here. I play differently then you're used to and getting flack for it.
I have no idea who has voted for you or how many votes are on you. I am paying attention to the thread at hand as I read, not it's current position.
What points? That he thinks I'm scum based on things I said day 1 that I've already defended? That's not a point that's a feeling that's tainted by votes that are already on me.
I understand you guys come from a different school of the game, but you're using logic that doesn't translate perfectly here. I play differently then you're used to and getting flack for it.
The last sentence can be applied to me as well.
But also, for the two of us, every player here is playing differently than what we are used to. So we have to look at the thread and judge everyone's behavior by our standards, and now it seems both us have determined that your posts look scummy. I wish I could stay here and discuss this further with you, but I unfortunately have to go to work.
If you feel you have adequately defended against Jay's points already, could you point us all in the direction of the posts where you've done so?
Okay, an explanation exists. Give KJ credit for producing this claim so quickly as he did, though I am less thrilled that it came on the backside of two votes for him. Have we determined whether this vigilante is infinite or finite shot?
Generally the vigilante role here can kill every night.
This I can oblige. No colored text since the yellow is annoying to read.
Silver-green
IR-green
Afrcngy-light green
kj101-light green
Roy-light green
Sloonei-yellow (no read)
MP- yellow (no read)
JoH-yellow-orange
adam- yellow-orange
Quebbs orange
DS-orange
Sloonei had about 8,000 posts at this point, so I am not thrilled that IR was unable to even start to take a stance. It's understandable to be unfamiliar with the new guy, but there was ample content available to work with by this point.
Quote : Originally Posted by Silver Lantern
Well as you know I am paranoid to a fault and I tend to distrust everyone at all times. So my list would look like this:
Not super suspicious:
SL
AFrcngy
KJ
Slightly Suspicious:
Jack
IR
Suspicious:
Roy
Quebbs
Suspicious as hell:
Adam
Sloonei
MP
DS
I appreciate that he went a bit against the grain with these reads even if I think half his "suspicious as hell" reads were incorrect.
Quote : Originally Posted by RenegadeRoy
I know I'm not lying, can't speak for Adam. I suppose it's possible that multiple people targeted Darkstone... and I was MD'd onto one of them... random but I dunno. I know my word at this point doesn't mean all that much given both of my night's results, but both would be pretty bad lies to make if I wasn't town.
Anyway, I'm going to throw a vote on Sloonei. I know you're new here and have a different playstyle, but your reaction to SL has my spidey-sense tinglin'.
vote: Sloonei
"spidey sense tinglin'" is extremely vague. I haven't seen a good reason yet to worry about Sloonei anywhere in this thread, and the gradual increase in the pressure against him at this point appears more opportunistic than natural.
I am less concerned with Silver Lantern in this situation because he initiated the suspicion of Sloonei based upon concrete and fair logic -- even if I think he's wrong. RenegadeRoy has tacked on to that ride here in a way that appears significantly less authentic.
Quote : Originally Posted by RenegadeRoy
This is not true. You have a role and you've presumably done things at night (barring a passive role like princess or some such). This is information you have that you are refusing to share.
Willful ignorance of Sloonei's repeated discussion of the culture clash inherent to roleclaiming between The Syndicate and HCR. At this point I am starting to think Roy looks awful.
But also, for the two of us, every player here is playing differently than what we are used to. So we have to look at the thread and judge everyone's behavior by our standards, and now it seems both us have determined that your posts look scummy. I wish I could stay here and discuss this further with you, but I unfortunately have to go to work. If you feel you have adequately defended against Jay's points already, could you point us all in the direction of the posts where you've done so?
WHAT POINTS?!
I've already given all info and defended myself multiple times. Even the person who started the vote against me (Silver) has since taken his vote off of me.
"spidey sense tinglin'" is extremely vague. I haven't seen a good reason yet to worry about Sloonei anywhere in this thread, and the gradual increase in the pressure against him at this point appears more opportunistic than natural.
I am less concerned with Silver Lantern in this situation because he initiated the suspicion of Sloonei based upon concrete and fair logic -- even if I think he's wrong. RenegadeRoy has tacked on to that ride here in a way that appears significantly less authentic.
How so? So no one is allowed to add another vote? I didn't like how Sloonei responded to Silver's vote... that set off my "spidey-senses". I've since removed my vote. If I was trying to be opportunistic, I wouldn't have voted for Sloonei.
I have no information, nor do I have an info gathering role. But, something twinged me oddly and I'm gonna go for it. I will, however, will move to Quebbster if that's where plurality will lie.
Another vague assertion tacked onto a vote. What is the something that "twinged you oddly" and why do I have to ask you that?
Quote : Originally Posted by RenegadeRoy
This is wrong and continues to be frustrating that you bring this up. If I was scum I probably wouldn't have voted for anyone. You keep chasing something that isn't there, which makes me think you're scum. I can understand voting on the discrepancy (even though I'm telling the truth) but voting based on my vote on you is misguided.
I have no idea what happened last night, but there are plenty of theories out there that have already been stated. All I can say is that I speak the truth.
"makes me think you're scum"
Half-accusation without real investment. The mark of a player who isn't sure how to handle his accuser because he isn't sure how to look authentic. Another markdown for Roy.
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I've read the thread now. That doesn't mean the entire thing is clear in my mind, because all of the claims make it a bit difficult to follow at points. I have a general idea of what's going on though.
How so? So no one is allowed to add another vote? I didn't like how Sloonei responded to Silver's vote... that set off my "spidey-senses". I've since removed my vote. If I was trying to be opportunistic, I wouldn't have voted for Sloonei.
1. What didn't you like about Sloonei's response to Silver's vote?
2. What have you liked better about Sloonei since then allowing you to remove that vote?
3. I didn't say "no one is allowed to add another vote" or anything of the sort. Misrepresentation. Bad mark.
Half-accusation without real investment. The mark of a player who isn't sure how to handle his accuser because he isn't sure how to look authentic. Another markdown for Roy.
Jeepers creepers, you're reading waaaay too much into each of my statements for someone who literally knows nothing about how I play this game.
Jeepers creepers, you're reading waaaay too much into each of my statements for someone who literally knows nothing about how I play this game.
I don't care how you play this game. That's an advantage I enjoy: I'm not blinded by gallons of meta as are all of people who play here frequently, and I am able to read every single post (except Sloonei's) from a perspective of total neutrality -- everything is at face value.
I've also encountered numerous examples of getting a read quite like this one correct, only to be dissuaded by the accused or those who "know him better" because of meta. I don't care. It's not good enough.