Just remember Ben Reily. And the Alamo. And the Maine.

I wasn't referencing a specific explanation, that's just always what I imaged was the case. And it's golden-age silly as well, which is why I like it.

I didn't know that they had been introduced separately. I haven't read much golden age Cap. I *am* a fan of the 70's stories though-- I am probably the only person who loved the Don Newton version.

So much so, you were willing to bear his children?


Ah, Don Newton. I recall his brother, Isaac. Strange guy, had a bunch of silly ideas. Called it "Gravity".

Don Newton is sadly overlooked by history. I thought he was a great artist.

I don't think that the kids just turned out that way is "golden-age silly". My wife and I both have brown hair, are somewhat shorter than the average, and to be honest could stand to lose a few pounds; both of our children have red hair, are very tall for their ages, and don't have an ounce of fat on them. (Cue JTR with the snarky comment about the kids not being mine.)

And I agree on Don Newton. I don't especially think his style worked for Captain Marvel--not how I envision that character--but no denying that it was beautiful artwork. And his Aquaman and Batman, while again not my favorite versions of the characters, are superb.

Now now. That would only happen based on what the mailman and/or milkman looked like.
Really tho, that stuff happens. Like my Mom was tall, but her mother and father were short for their gender. And my Mom's kids were considerably taller then either parent. It's all about throwback genes.
And if you heard about it the other day, scientists are just about ready to create a new form of life in a matter of months, all because of playing with the genes of things. Makes you wonder...

Makes me wonder when are these scientists going to learn not to fool with Mother Nature. Everytime they do, some gets screwed up.

And, furthermore, as long as your kids aren't either Joephisto or Dido, you needn't worry about them going through your comic collection with scissors and editting things out.

Well, Golden-Age silly in the complete extremes to which they turned out that way. Not unlike the Shoveller's mixed-race kids in Mystery Men (half the kids are white, half are black).

And I liked Don Newton on Cap, even though it was quite different. The realisting-leaning style (even compared to other artists) coupled with the silliness really worked for me.

Seeing as one of the "power cards" handed out refers to Turtle Man I ask the question how did the original Turtle die

Did he drown?

I have no idea.

I actually liked how NONE of the other rogues liked the Turtle 'cause he was so disgusting (I remember on time them collecting up all the rogues to find turtle under a bridge eating a fish raw and everyone being grossed out).

That said...if I remember right...the original Turtle killed himself when he detonated a bomb in his own hideout. (hmmm...my "power" is to move SUPER slow - and to slow things down but mostly to move super slow, and I set a bomb in my own hideout hoping I can get out in time...is it me or is there a HUGE flaw in this plan?)

Since I don't know the answer, I'll continue the Don Newton love...

I wiki-ed him, and found out he studied under CC Beck, and specifically requested to work on Cap. Interesting. He wanted to visually re-invent him. While such attitude often annoys me, it does seem that he treated Cap with love, and I did like the result, even if it was quite different.

I'd wonder what Beck thoguht about it, but since he died right about the same time *and* he hated just about everything he talked about, I'm guessing it's not a worthwhile question.

*checks the calendar, confirms current year*

What's a "milkman"?

Well, considering your great age and all, I assumed at one time or another you used to get your milk delivered.


It's like the 80 year old man who told a guy he has been married for over 50 years. Then a car pulls up and there's a beautiful young blond woman. The old man says it's his wife.
The other guy says, "Hey, I thought you said you'd been married for over 50 years".
The old man replies, "I have been, just not always to the same woman."

Dude, I'm 42. I can't ever recall getting milk anywhere but the supermarket. (Tom, on the other hand...)

I've often wondered what was going through the mind of the first man to drink milk. I mean, to look at the underside of a cow, and say, "I think I'll drink whatever comes out of these when I squeeze them." Really.