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SE: Who, interestingly enough, was quite into retcons of the above variety, but his were generally good. I still consider his Vision and Scarlet Witch characterizations definitive.
I most definitely agree with you there. I believe the idea of the Vision being the android Human Torch reconfigured was originally Roy Thomas', but Englehart fleshed it out beautifully. Of all the reasons I have to despise John Byrne and his body of work, his attempt to un-do that (which itself was un-done by Kurt Busiek, thanks Mr. B) is near the top of the list.
I most definitely agree with you there. I believe the idea of the Vision being the android Human Torch reconfigured was originally Roy Thomas', but Englehart fleshed it out beautifully. Of all the reasons I have to despise John Byrne and his body of work, his attempt to un-do that (which itself was un-done by Kurt Busiek, thanks Mr. B) is near the top of the list.
That's the one thing Byrne did that I liked. Showing the Vision was not the Torch.
I totally disliked Thomas' rape of the original Torch. And I didn't appreciate Englehart's going along with it.
As for Busiek's later work, it's been pretty much retcon'd away.
And since you have not seen it, be warned. If you ever decide to watch the movie, there are some words that you may not find appropriate for young children to hear. Also some bloody scenes and deaths of characters.
That, and it doesn't exactly stick to the comicbook tales of Hal. How many times will DC alter Hal's origin, I don't know. Like how everyone at work gets to know he's Hal right from the beginning.
Scary that this movie has been on my list of things to do...but I've been playing WoW a bit more lately so I haven't gotten around to it...guess I'll have to watch it tonight and hopefully get the answer in before someone else.
(Thanks for the review...but I don't mind when movies/cartoons tweak/change origins a bit - I'll have to see if it's more than a bit - as I see movies as their own "separate universe" (kind of like New Frontier Movie - which I know was based on the New Frontier books...but I liked the movie just a bit more - though both were great...shame that's not the core DC Universe).
Scary that this movie has been on my list of things to do...but I've been playing WoW a bit more lately so I haven't gotten around to it...guess I'll have to watch it tonight and hopefully get the answer in before someone else.
You're late with the answer to my GL question. It was already answered by Monitor. And then he posted a question (which I tried to answer, but am waiting for him to confirm.
His question was/is;
Quote : Originally Posted by Monitor616
Name three of the five members of the original Stormwatch Prime.
For some reason, I thought the Laughing Fish story was rewrite of a previous story from the 40's. But I could be mistaken. Like the one done later, about the vampire Monk (which I now forget the name of).
The first part of it is-- where everybody is protecting a guy who Joker has sworn to murder.
In their first comic the team was Fuji, Hellstrike, Battalion, Winter, and Diva (Cannon and Fahrenheit were on team 2, but should've been first string) - however there was a team before that of Battalion (as Jackson King at that time), Flashpoint and Nautika (who was married to a later teammate Sunburst).