Vote: killingjoke

If the Freddy is dead, I see no better way than to honor her memory

(I also don’t know why anyone would think I was implying Obi-Wan when I had prior grumbled about not getting the role..)

I’ve been quite well behaved about not using the “I am” declaration prior to this game. I could go even further but let’s go meta for a bit...

The reason I asked you if you overheard Gira asking me about my role on Discord was because, unlike some of the longer players who recall I’ve known Nat since she was six and she gets along like oil and water with my ex (making this a really strange role for me and far from my first choice therefore), he didn’t know and wanted to ask why Shel and I were talking about how strange it is for me to be playing Nat.

You corner me when you know that I’m Padme - and I’ve given name, power and targets (if you paid attention to whom I want to quiz) - on a Star Wars game and I will use gamestyle I try to restrict in return for people not abusing it by always starting a game asking me my name.

As for the rest of your post, I did ask mich directly if he is Hondo or not, and will see if he replies to that. But your posts have pinged me more than his have, such as your references to the Trade Federation as you think the mafia is, when that's mostly just a bunch of cowardly bureaucrats that got pushed into starting a conflict by Sidious. And after the first prequel, they didn't really do much. By the time of The Clone Wars tv show, they were officially neutral in the war between the Republic and the Confederacy of Independent Systems, aka Separatists.

And given how much attention you pay to details in other areas, that really gives me a tingle that you might be part of the mafia and are trying to obscure the actual mafia theme by focusing on Trade Federation rather than the primary antagonists of the series this game is based on, which would be Dooku, Grievous, Sidious, and their subordinates. If it's actually a "Trade Federation" mafia, I won't eat a hat, but I will change my signature to say, "Rokk was right and I was wrong."

Hoooooray! Caught up again. Absolutely no idea on who or how to vote at this point though

can't edit, so to clarify my rpevious post, the trade federation was "officially" not part of the separatists during the war, but the actually were. But weren't prime movers at that point, just subservient to the sith.

Because I use Separatists / TF interchangeably. You’ll note the names I listed as likely belonging were Dooku, Grievous, etc. (The only TF Name I actually expect to see is Nute). However it’s disingenuous to act like the TF isn’t a majour part of the Separatists considering they supplied the battle droids, were the planets breaking away, etc.

So considering how much you pay attention I’m surprised you parroted back at me the names I already listed as likely Mafia in a prior post. You did read that one didn’t you?

No. They were manipulated by the Sith. The Sith weren’t even know of beyond the Jedi; they were boogeyman. The TF thought themselves in partnership with Dooku - note he didn’t call himself Darth Tyrannus to them - whom they saw as a nobleman of money that left the Jedi Order in part because of his patrician ways.

The only time the TF really hear much about the Sith is when they are given orders by Sidious whom also mentions Maul to them but they don’t actually understand the concept of the Sith. The Sith aren’t known as Sith to the TF but are just “non-Jedi with Force powers”.

That doesn't refute my point. The trade federation was controlled by Darth Sidious at that point, whether they admitted it or not.

Heroclix night for us, so Destructo & I will be gone, too. We might be back before the game closes, it may be after midnight before we're back.

That still makes them part of the Separatists and you’re saying they’re not. You said they were subservient. They didn’t see it that way. They were the money, troops, ships, etc.

It’s why Geonosis was the focal planet for the villains in the second film and the TF was there for the execution attempt on Obi, Ani and me.

And yes, you did mention Dooku and Grievous as possible mafia. But you also mentioned Palpatine as possible neutral, which seems very unlikely to me. Or "town traitor," but I'm not 100% sure what that means. Starts as town, but changes? Or just meaning that he would have a town cloak?

If Palpatine is in the game, I can't see him being anything but mafia-aligned.

My knowledge of Palpatine would have me leaning towards him being Mafia with a cloak because of his connections, but this is based on my knowledge of episodes 1-3. I know he was evil in 4-6, so he would be no-cloak if we were based on that. But Clone Wars occurs between episodes 2 and 3, right?

I suggest that about Palpatine because he was playing both sides so he could turn the Republic into an Empire. The Separatists were a tool to accomplish that but he wasn’t wanting them to win which is why he kept betraying them.
I could see him as Mafia too but being we were spitballing I used the word “Possible”.

A Town Traitor is someone who appears as Town and isn’t in contact with the Mafia but whose win condition would be connected to the Town losing.

Correct. When Palpatine was the Head Chancellor of the Galactic Senate which is why I said I could possibly see him as Neutral: he interacted with the Separatists through proxies and holograms. He mainly stuck around with the Republic - even though he was conspiring against them - which even led to the Separatists trying to kidnap and kill him more than once.

Hondo isn’t really a bad guy per se in clone wars, he’s kind of both