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I also want to know if everything is ok with Roy after last night.
As far as I can tell, I'm fine. Not sure if I would know otherwise though.
Quote : Originally Posted by The BoyBlunder
Anyway, while I don't think gfish has been caught in an impossible claim, when you combine it with your copping, it feels like it could be a supplied fakeclaim.
Is posting in green new forum shorthand that has arisen during my time away? I assume it means non-game talk?
Is Stranger gave a fake claim of a character that was already dead, that would be pretty devilish... although given that there are multiple Hawks out there... actually might not be bad. A fake claim, but not an entirely safe one.
I've seen green used for OOG talk I think... at least that's what I'm using it for.
Quote : Originally Posted by Linkor
Eh, I'm not settled on roy.
Long con, your results last night, may I ask how they were? You know, successful, useful, failed, pointless? It may help our discussion.
Also, Lamplighter would be a good safe claim for mafia. My qualms with it would be it is a little to safe. The town would trust it, almost to easy of a claim.
What are you not settled on with me exactly?
Something out of Long Con would be nice...
No way Lamplighter is a safe claim. He appears in the write-up as being saved. Suppose it could be a ghost write, but that'd be one heck of a gamble.
I get why Grizz might be suspicious to some, but he's not rubbing me the wrong way yet. Agree on the IR bumps, so he'd be a suspect for me. Followed maybe by Tony. Slightly scummy read from Dboy. And there's always the missing parties like Afr.
Quote : Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005
Yeah. I'm trying to lynch GFish so he doesn't steer the town...in a game with CBob, Darq, Rokk and Roy. That sounds not legit, on top of defending GFish.
This is why I suspect Immortal Raven.
Nice, haha, I'll take that as a compliment
Quote : Originally Posted by Mr Stranger
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Well, knowing Afterthought there would have to be plenty of booze, smokes, and general debauchery, and it should generally be a good time. So I'd say a sort Aftoberfest, a celebration of the return of the once dead (but never an afterthought) King. The booze flows freely, beggars and bankers drink and dance as one, there are games of chance and skill (gambling encouraged), and of course "the great toast" where everyone is encouraged to toast (or roast) the King himself (all in good fun of course).
Well, knowing Afterthought there would have to be plenty of booze, smokes, and general debauchery, and it should generally be a good time. So I'd say a sort Aftoberfest, a celebration of the return of the once dead (but never an afterthought) King. The booze flows freely, beggars and bankers drink and dance as one, there are games of chance and skill (gambling encouraged), and of course "the great toast" where everyone is encouraged to toast (or roast) the King himself (all in good fun of course).
Well, that's it. Roy did it. Good game, everyone, but this has got to be the best answer so far!
Not much time left before I leave for work (and will be unavailable).
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The festival had an assortment of things that you would find across the galaxy. There were Ewoks serving drinks, the comedy duo of Bert and Ernie were doing a sketch on stage, Roy and Marth were leading a sword-fighting tournament, and there was even a giant roast beast that could be enjoyed by any and all who wished. All was happy and all was well in town.
I won't be around for the next 8 hours or so. Going to leave my vote with someone sensual who hasn't voted so far in today's phase:
Catching up here but you're 50/50 on gfish even with the copping?
I suspect this will be answered below but between yesterday's showing and now this I'm moving your colour closer to red.
I like his claim, and I think it is completely plausible he mded JOH due to yesterday's actions. That isn't clearing him, I think it's just as likely that he's telling the truth as he isn't.
Yay, playing devil's advocate is getting me on the hot seat.
First, both JoH and gfish left their statements very nebulous if I may borrow Fred's wording. Here's the sequence:
-JoH votes gfish, some vagueness about tentacle monster.
-gfish responds with an MD claim.
-JoH then claims to have copped
-gfish claims character, but not specific iteration of said character.
-A whole big discussion of provided fakeclaims vs potential OMACs vs legitimate claims ensues. It has dominated discussion.
Both of gfish and JoH intentionally vague and for me it comes down to who I believe and the consequences of lynching one over of the other. I did not like JoH's initial post of the phase where he assumed that both Ox and Monkey were scum. He played last game. He's seen the many different allegiances and red text was Dragon City. Both Ox and Monkey fit that criteria. I found it hard to believe that he would make such a jump.
As for who I would lynch, right now I think I would still lynch gfish. After that, I don't quite know. Roy's buddying of JoH is a bit troublesome and Destro is acting more clueless than usual, almost as if he knows it's his standard M.O. now and he can play it up.
Throwing shade at JoH, yes I did. I have my reasons even if you don't like them. I also know this is a game with many allegiances. It's not standard mafia/town/neutral. Just because he may have caught someone in one faction who could be bad doesn't mean that he's 100% good. And I am correct about how lynching gfish is beneficial to JoH regardless of JoH's alignment.
If GFish and I are both town aligned, it is not good for me to get him lynched. GFish is food at getting participation out of players, something I need to do my job.
I'm not 100% sure he is bad. He's just my top choice, which I stand by.
Roy is right... except that Afterthought is dead. Kaput. Done-zo. Deep-sixed. Shuffled off his mortal coil. You get the idea.
So instead they should have more of a Purple Wedding type party. Throw a big feast, maybe some dwarves jousting, songs, general merriment. Then serve a nice big pigeon pie, with some wine to wash it down with. And just surreptitiously drop a little crystallized poison in the king's cup to solve that problem, hmm?
I targeted you with a misdirect last night. It should be no surprise that I find you most suspicious, said so last phase, and voted to lynch you. So I misdirected you.
I have a game nearly an opposite effect to Long Con and made sure he could not be misdirected.
How nice of you. What is "I have a game nearly..."?
Quote : Originally Posted by gfishfunk
Full claim: I am Ebb and Flow, a mix of Cloak and Dagger and Hawk and Dove. My two lives are my two characters.
I am town. I don't expect to do much with that on me. I misspelled JoH and semi-garred Long Con.
I'm also a double voter while both characters are alive.
I don't believe you are town. What is "I misspelled JoH and semi-garred Long Con."
Quote : Originally Posted by Linkor
Eh, I'm not settled on roy.
Long con, your results last night, may I ask how they were? You know, successful, useful, failed, pointless? It may help our discussion.
Also, Lamplighter would be a good safe claim for mafia. My qualms with it would be it is a little to safe. The town would trust it, almost to easy of a claim.
Last night was just fine for me. Successful, as far as I can tell.
I was going to pretend that I thought Lamplighter could be bad this time, you know, to try to keep him alive longer. But I feel like the evidence has leaned toward an LL that is opposed to Sineater.
Quote : Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005
@TBB
Yeah, I didn't really like those posts.
I believe this is Raven's first stated read. No reasoning is provided.
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Raven later quotes Rokk saying he doesn't think either GFish or myself is red and says he agrees here:
There's another post where Raven is basically like "I don't think anything Jack or GFish said is scummy but I could see them saying these things if they are bad.
So after starting with a vague scum read on me, Raven latches onto the "Jack and GFish are arguing townies" theory stated by Rokk and iirc, Fred and CBob (whatever. Point being a couple people said it). Then, after Lamplighter is almost killed in the writeup and I claim him outright and an enemy of the Justice League (Ox) is shown killing in the writeup...Raven thinks I'm bad again? He doesn't say so in his first post of the day, after my post he says makes me a suspect. He waits until I vote for GFish without saying why. Then he throws shade on me.
After I ask for reactions to GFish he gives this.
Yeah. I'm trying to lynch GFish so he doesn't steer the town...in a game with CBob, Darq, Rokk and Roy. That sounds not legit, on top of defending GFish.
This is why I suspect Immortal Raven.
This all makes sense to me.
Quote : Originally Posted by Mr Stranger
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Hopefully I'll feel more creative by the end of the day.
@Roy, it's day two. Nobody is cleared till day 4 in my mind.
Also, I'm okay with lynching gfish. Misdirecting a high priority target such as Jack is not something town should do night one. Track him, doctor him, cop him, those things that allow you to find his alignment is what you do.
Misdirecting him doesn't help town early game.
Rokk_Krinn- "Telling the truth and sticking by it always looks clumsier because it's not a pre-planned malice."