Knockdown is sweet. my combo would be:
E star spangle kid + stuning blow + knockdown.
Add to that an outsider (katana or V arsenal) to use the outsider team on that target and the +2 modifier is gone. SWEEEEEEEEETTTTT!!!!!!!

I understand that, but why have the combination on the card. Most of my favorite WP pieces have stealth, so they can't be attacked at range awyway. I just wish that they would have done something more effective to help BF. It needs it.

So with both Stunning Blow, and Knockdown, your first incap would do your base damage and give the token, the second attack would be at a +2 DV for the defender, but you wouldn't do any damage from Stunning Blow because the second attack isn't technically an Incapacitate attack. The card grants an attack that acts like Incap, but is not from the actual power.

Also note that if you push to use Incapacitate on the first attack, you would take your push click (barring Willpower) before making the second roll.

I must take umbrage, sir!

This red-blooded, lady-lovin' he-man knows all too well his Village People--their Live and Sleazy (check out the art here: http://www.musicstack.com/item/20518...ive+and+sleazy) lp was a staple of my childhood.

For, truly, is there any finer music than disco?

I've got to back GG on this one. That old Kraven had my vote for worst sculpt of all time. It looks like a lump of plastic left in the sun too long. I tried to fix it, but there isn't much I can do with it. I'm in the middle of a Mod using Doc Samson's legs, arms, head and putting in kraven's lion chest and seeing how that turns out

May wait to see this one in person. I lIke the detail on the vest better :D


Speed Demon got screwed on a sculpt though. I've been seeing mods using both flashes and quicksilvers that turned out better than this sculpt. He has more of a "power walking" thing going ont there.

Kraven. Meh. He's been done, and the old version was fine. The only thing I don't get is why does this joker get two starting 10 AVs when so many others were stiffed?

Whizzer, why Plasticity? I assume it's so he can break away easier, but if so, why not L/C? Can he not run up walls? Can he not run across water? Speedsters totally deserve L/C on any click without HSS, Charge, Flurry, or Phasing (where applicable). the higher versions present some interesting options though. The Vet seems like he'll be quite strong, especially Thunderbolted (and it's even thematic!).

Knockdown is really cool. It seems that they're working to make Close Combat more worth attempting in this set, by coming up with a bunch of feats that specify Close Combat to use them.

Indominable is interesting, but it's basically just hedging your bets, since if you have either of the pre-reqs you're already immune to at least one of those effects. It'd be worth using on some characters though, especially if they have gratuitous BF on their dial.

Speed Demon is faster than Quicksilver. Quicksilver (according to Quicksilver) tops out at 200-odd mph. Still, neither of them is fast enough to deserve more than 11+HSS, if that.

Hulk w/BF + Indominable + Fortitude = a much tougher hulk.

I'm glad they made this new feat, though I still haven't seen a truely usable hulk yet, it does make him a bit better. It also helps out E Juggernaut a bit.

Willpower definately gets some nice benifits as well, so for 5 pts. I'd probably drop it on some WP guys. I see the BF bonus being the greater in the long run due to big BF bricks being Incap. targets very often.

I really like what Seth was trying to do with Speed Demon, trying some new combinations for speedsters.

However, every single other speedster they've made has had consistent speed values since that's pretty much their whole thing. Most never fall below double digits and those that do have consistently high movement before that. Rookie Hypertime Flash drops to 4 but that's after 5 clicks of 10 move.

I just think a lot less people would be complaining if he was 20 or so more points and had an extra click of HSS with some higher speed values. He could've been very cool with some high movement charging Incap, which is perfect for a speedster (tying people with a rope at superspeed, anyone?).

I actually really like this, since nobody should be able to get away from a speedster, and it's something that happens in comics alot. You turn to run away from the guy and he's already on the other side of you. And even with HSS he doesn't have the running up walls ability.

I can't see how R Whizzer is bad. AFAIK, there aren't any 36-or-less-pointers HSS'ers that can do 2 damage on their first click. Have an SinSyn member next to a character, Whizzer can come by side, replace his AV with the SinSyn member's AV and make an attack with reasonable AV and 2 damage.

He singl handedly defeated Spider-Man. That's what he f'n did to get 10 AVs.

Vet. Kraven has thesame starting click, BUT for 1 whole measly point more this version is usable throughout his WHOLE dial !!
10 AV sharing for my SS6 !! Oh Yeah !!
he seems a little undercosted (or in this case the older Kraven was WAY overcosted and top-heavy and that Vet didn't have SS TA) to me...

Speed Demon/Whizzer, yeah I would have liked a 10 movement on him though and why only 1 click of HSS ? the Rookie looks great !
I think the plasticity makes him better then the EXp.

I haven't read the whole thread, but does anyone else here think that Kraven looks like "The Rock"! Do you SMELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL what the Kraven's cookin'?

It is only 15 points if you don't speak English; otherwise it is 10.

Most of the Spider-Man don't have 10 AVs, and even the Vet only has 1.