Killing Cap WAS a statement. It's a statement about the current state of America, and I think it's a pretty powerful one.
He wasn't completely denied a heroic death, he still took the bullet saving a cop.
Also, I believe that denying him a heroic death was important to that statement. It makes the statement shine through all the more. It's saying, "Cap is dead, and it's no accident." If he died in a fight, how cliche would that be? And worse yet, it would mean that Cap LOST to someone in battle. And it would make us all remember Cap as a loser.

He can still be a symbol for us, but what about those still growing? Will they be able to know of him? In time, what Captain America is, was and always will be will start to fade. He will become an icon of past history, beloved by some but forgotten by most.

As for the posts... Everyone has a right to post how they feel about the situation. Why do you feel the need tear into the people who are actually experiencing something along the lines of grievance? It is alright for you to disagree and even state as much vocally. However, please stop trying to insult the posters just because you think it's foolish for them to react in such a manner. Show some compassion.

That's gonna be hard for me because I'm done with Marvel.

Yeah, but if Iron Man got so bent out of shape in his mad lust for power that he blasted Cap to kingdom come, then perhaps he could have been so wracked with guilt that he would have become a huge, sloppy drunk again and run SHIELD into the ground. Sort of a messed up Judas complex. Everyone would have lost. What good times those would have been.

It really sticks in my craw that after all of this Iron Man has been handed the keys to the kingdom and is now one of the powerful guys in the world. That's just wrong.

I thought I had a theory that Steve will return in May as Ronin. Because4 on newsarama with there "Meet the new New Avengers" when Dr. Strange was previewed that had him floating in a facility where there seemed to be Cap on a bed or something. So, I present to you my theory, in May's issue of NA, the Cover has Strange with a sword in his stomach right where Cap was "shot." Also, this is the issue where Strange is in the facility and where the identity will be revealed.

First part is a semi-good point. Though I'm sure Cap will continue to appear in Marvel Adventures, so he's still around.
And yeah, I did get a little carried away in going off on someone for their post. I feel like a lot of people treat comics as if their idea of the future is owed to them by the company, and that bothers me, especially when they start condemning stories before they've even come out. But at the same time, it did start to become a personal attack (unintentionally), and for that I apologize.

I like your thinking that Strange would make this huge effort to cheat death for Steve.

The only reason I find it unlikely is that it is too quick a turnaround... and if it does go that way... you are going to see some pished-off people lose their shet in a big way.

Hey, if it is okay for the American Administration, it should be good enough for an American corporation.

Plus, Joey Q only said Carol was lying. So Cap could be alive but just not on the raft or part of the plot Carol was talking about. Gives em wiggle room when Cap shows up later ("No, we weren't lying- Caps heart stopped and he was legally dead- it just that his super soldier serum brought him back 20 seconds later...")

I've seen a few posts here and there about how Marvel did it just to sell issues. The odd thing (to me at least) is that this is usually presented as a negative.

I would argue that every plot point, business decision and character created/deleted by every comic company in existence is done to sell issues. It's the financial reality of a for-profit business. Of course Cap was offed to sell issues. The interim period will be an attempt to sell issues. His return will be an attempt to sell issues.

Just the way the biz works.

Two words: nerd rage

That was entertaining.

A new, hip Captain America misses the point entirely. Captain America should be neither new nor hip. It'd be like giving superman long hair.

Eh, if anything it's the other way around, since the Captain America book will continue to be ongoing, and someone else will be picking up the mantle in the short term. The title isn't going anywhere, just the man behind it.

from what I hear, he's only going to be Cap in his own War Journal book, and even then only for an issue or two. Should be interesting. As for the logn term Cap, the contenders are Sam Wilson, Bucky Barnes, Clint Barton, Clap, and Tony Stark.

Steve's dead. Not permanently, of course, he WILL be back, but for now he's totally dead, at least for all intents and purposes. He's nor Mar-Vell dead, or Bucky dead, or Uncle Ben dead, but he is at least Hawkeye dead.

I doubt that, because the Ronin in New Avengers seems quite a bit more "newbish" to the team than Cap would be. Like he didn't know all the players or how this sort of thing works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQO9xk7bxNk





watch and weep...Joey Q himself saying that.....get ready for it.....CAP IS DEAD...and that there will be another Cap....just not Steve Rogers....hes dead