Are you assuming he has been costed to be a wildcard? Or have you done the math for the entire dial and come up almost 20 points short?

Or when someone was making the card they used templates from prior figures and just left it on the card.

When the card was handed out so the website / sneak-peak could be made, they included it.

In which case errating the dial to gain the wildcard should mean Grodd should be 179 points, instead...

Frankenstein only has SStr. on the WK site, although the card is still half-wrong.

Easier not to fix the problem in the right way?

That, if nothing else, tells us that the errata are suspect at best and misleading at worst.

Coupled with the fact that WizKids is gone, "judges" out there should do the right thing and use their own judgment. In my games, Namor has flurry, Charcoal flies, Frankenstein has the special power (I don't care who said what), and Grodd is a wildcard.

Easier in that there was a mechanic called Soaring at the time which used the flight stand.

The flight stand was (unofficially) the visual clue to tell if a figure could fly.

So yes, at that time, it was the easy fix to make Charcoal a non-flier.

To me, that is the opposite of the "right thing" here.

Do you also give Parallax Quintessence and Mystics?

Hey, I've seen a panel where Professor X was eating with a knife and fork. I don't care what anyone says, this clearly means that every one of his figures was supposed to have BCF on every spot with no attack power.

And I guess it was easier then, a year later to make Blue Beetle a flier, for the same reason?

Exactly my point, thank you!

I'm not even saying that the errata were maliciously or deliberately wrong. But particularly now that 1) soaring is gone, 2) WizKids is gone, and 3) we don't have this silly "keep errata simple" ethic that often made things just as complicated, everyone running games out there should be doing it without the specter of support revocation hanging over them.

Although that does not include houseruling (such as adding Quintessence to Parallax) FOR ME, it very well could and should for anyone else. To you, the right thing is to continue on with the well-established but often wrongheaded official course. More power to you.

And feel free to trot out any strained houseruling comparisons you want. I think most people in the thread can tell that what was being discussed was the obviously misprinted cases where the intent was clear, regardless of what the errata ended up as. Your Xavier/BCF comparison is nothing more than reactionary exaggeration.

So i would say check the Wk's site and see if the flying monkey has the Calculator Team affiliation.

If he does GREAT, and if he doesn't, NO COPYING BATMAN OR SUPERMAN TEAMS FOR YOU!!!!!

heh

Should I cut the flyer base from my SR justice league batman?
In the web site it does not have a flyer base...
http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix...p?unitid=13360

but the card shows the flyer symbol...
the website is right?
as you can see the website has his errors too.

when charcoal and blackhand and blue beetle came out we have something called SOARING.
without the flyer base it could not be shown if the fig was soaring or not.

when the soaring rule (and the flyers bases) was eliminated the flyers only had the wing symbol printed on the base, so figs like charcoal, blackhand and bluebeetle could be used as flyers.

they adjusted the errata to avoid confusion with the figs and their bases.
it is not that difficult to understand.

and I would make a slight correcting to Harpua, the flight stand was officially what told us if a flyer was soaring or hovering, it was very important to flyers.

quoting rotru
3) we don't have this silly "keep errata simple" ethic that often made things just as complicated, everyone running games out there should be doing it without the specter of support revocation hanging over them.

If you remember the amount errata we have then the "keep errata simple" ethic is not silly at all.
I really can´t see the complication, go with the dial. It is not that hard to do or remember.
And you say it as if we had a gun to our head to follow the rules.
We follow the rules because it is what makes this game the same one played in Washington, Mexico, Rio de Janeiro and Buenos Aires.
If each one of us rules as we see fit then our players could only play at our venues.
That is not the idea.

Sure it was, for exactly the reason you give. With the pages and pages of FAQ, clarifications, and errata, how much complexity are you really saving when you shortchange a misprinted figure?

And you say it as though Namor having Flurry or Charcoal being able to fly are differences so profound that players from another venue would be unable to cope.

I'm profoundly uninterested in having exactly the same play experience from one place to the next. In my experience, it never happened anyway. Having a friendly, fair, and welcoming group is what really matters, and no rules are going to give you that. If a group is upfront and straightforward with the ways in which they deviate from the standard rules, I see no reason to punish or scold them.

Quite frankly I think this discussion is getting a little out of hand - the same message is being repeated over and over, and no one seems to listen.
If you want a definite answer on whether or not Grodd has a TA you need to ask your Judge or agree with your friends - there are no official answers any more. How people in other places are playing the game isn't really important until you go to play with them.