Well now you have some solid evidence to let your judge know their ruling is wrong, if that is what you are saying. Hopefully he takes a look at things and realizes how the ruling is.

Two weeks late but still vaguely on topic: could I transfer a T-bolted Defender Ant-Man's 20Dv to a Defender possessor, have SI Dr. Strange copy Defenders TA, then use his Defend power to give 20Dv to any adjacent character? I did this the other night, and I just wanted to make sure I wasn't cheating. Thanks!

Ant-Man wouldn't even need to lend his DV to a Defender first, provided there was a friendly one somewhere on the map Dr. Strange could copy the TA from; he could lend it directly to Dr. Strange.

In other words, yes, this would work fine as you describe it.

Not to start a new thread about T-Bolts/Wildcarding so basically if I have the Avengers T'Bolted to Defenders and have NO natural Defenders TA on the team, Spider-Man can only copy the vanilla free-action move Avengers TA, correct? The same applies to Mercenaries copying the Avengers TA, correct (meaning they'd be better off Merc'ing a natural Defenders TA and sharing the values)?

Thanks.

Correct.
Not sure what you are saying here... There needs to be a natural Defender on the team in order for the Defenders TA to be chosen. Once chosen it can be activated by Thunderbolted Avengers though.

Quick question that is semi-relevant to this thread..

Say I have an Avengers team, can I use Thunderbolts feat on each to give them the Fantastic Four team ability, then use the Fantastic Four feat to allow them to share DV?

As the FF feat does not state you need to select the characters, only they need the Fantastic Four team ability, where as Thunderbolts give them the said ability... meaning when the game starts they adopt it, but the "their team affiliation does not change" thing makes me guess they would still count as Avengers..? It's just for that match, instead of the Avenger team ability being a free move, it becomes whatever ability you picked?

Just wanna get this outta my head and clear.

(Alittle off-topic but easier than making a new thread)

I say no.

Here's the text of Thunderbolts.
And since FF ATA requires the figures to have the FF team ability as a prereq, I don't think it will work.

not only that but it is using a feat as a pre-req for another feat which is a nono.
Also the F4 alt TA requires the F4 Symbol not the ability to use the TA.

Just to add, my Ant-Man T-Bolts/Defenders team (which does make use of a few WC's) cleans up at my local venue, and no one bats an eye at the validity of the combo.

What I was trying to say is that Mercenaries = Wildcard.

They're basically in the same camp as a Wildcard if I Merc a figure to Avengers and have the natural Avengers T'Bolted, correct? The Merc figure could only have the regular Avengers TA.

Not quite. They use the TA just like wildcards do, so they are treated the same way when it comes to sharing values. That doesn't mean they are treated the same way in every other instance though.
Not at all. After you've chosen the TA to Thunderbolt at the start of the game, your Avengers are considered to possess the new TA. So it's perfectly valid for a Thunderbolt to share values with a Mercenary, though it doesn't work the other way around.
But you still need a figure with the printed TA to activate Mercenary in the first place...

Hmm, I could've sworn Merc couldn't do that due to "use" vs. "possess"???

Do what, exactly?

As Quebbster pointed out, a T-bolted Defender can lend (or the Merc can borrow, whichever method of thinking about it suits you) to a Mercenary.

A Mercenary can't lend to a Defender (natural, T-bolted, or otherwise) since they do not possess the TA.

That you couldn't Mercenary a figure to Avengers AND then have them use the T'Bolted TA.

It's like using a Feat to meet the pre-reqs of another Feat since it's Mercenary that's granting my figure the Avengers TA which then meets the pre-req for the Thunderbolts ATA Feat.

Get where I'm coming from?

Okay, then, see the last part of Quebbster's post: