For reinforcement:

Thanks again Normalview. You're the man.

Not to question you or anything, but has this been officially ruled on at some point? Reason being is this question has come up a number of times at our venue.

Thanks again.

(BTW, are you an MST 3000 fan?)



Edit: Thanks for the back-up Harpua. You and Normalview make quite the team.

I'd ask someone to rep Harpua for me, but I have the feeling everyone gets the same message.

Yes. Yes, I am.



He's good like that. Leaping out of nowhere, providing quoted rules-text, the skulking back off into cyberspace. Like a rules-ninja.

______ Egah!_____

I agree.

And using that same argument...

OUTSMART:

Prerequisites: Mastermind or Outwit

Choose a character.

When a power possessed by the character or an adjacent friendly character would be countered by an opposing character's power or ability, you and the opposing character's controller each roll 2d6. If your result is more, the power is not countered instead.

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The character with Outsmart is the one that the PC'r would have to LoS to to affect your reroll.

Of course if no one was able to agree on this matter, the rules have a simple solution for it.

A ROLL OFF!!!

The real question is, who do you have to have LoS to in order to use PC on a rules roll off?

Do you realize that you are not making your case.

Manipulate says:
"The Chief can use Leadership. If Leadership
would allow you to add an action to your action total for the
turn, you can instead put a Manipulate token on the Chief's
character card if there are two or fewer Manipulate tokens
on the card. When another friendly character would take
pushing damage, you can remove a Manipulate token from
the Chief's character card and roll a d6; on a result of 3-6,
the character ignores the pushing damage."

The way that is worded, YOU are one making the roll. This is the same way Outsmart is worded.

You cannot PC such a roll because no figure is making the roll.

As a result, we have an entry in the player's guide to make the change in order to be able to use PC.

No such entry exists for the Outsmart feat. This means that it is still the player, NOT the figure, making the roll.

When using Outsmart, there is not a figure to which LoF can be drawn...on either side, so PC cannot be used.

Then I humbly digress.

I'm merely stating how the card reads and using a prior example to support how I'm getting what I'm getting.

There's the possibility that it is intended to work as you say, but there's no documentation I've seen to support ruling it that way.

If it were to get an entry like Manipulate, I'd have no problem accepting it.

I'm bumping this in hopes that nbperp can weigh in and give us an official answer.

You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friends nose.

SAYS YOU!!