I actually like the reuse of the sculpt. I think I will play a team that includes each character that has this sculpt.

Thank you for posting this!

Looking forward to the Dark Avengers Alternate Team Ability - its the make or break factor on this figure. 3 points is just too little of a difference for the HoT version and the fact he can use Thunderbolts only increases his options.

The LE might be fun, and I do like the transition from Spider-Man to Venom within the dial, but the ATA needs to be really interesting to make him a constructed option.

Nifty, though.

With a 9AV and no TA. He's going to be regulated to attacking support figs, and the PB won't really matter. Or he'll get based and then the SP is wasted.

I wonder if there really will be a Dark Avengers ATA. I wish we could get those confirmed. I'm itching to know!

If he's around the SO:Yellow Lantern it would grant him +1 attack(making him look at the big boys a bit more), it could matter then.

He might have access to a TA.......we have to wait and see about a Dark Avengers ATA.
That's different then most Psyblasters (who don't have ) how?

At least if you base LE Venom you might have to contend with a HO that he should be toting.


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Edit: Oh, new thought on the Dark Avenges ATA possibbility.

When I first saw;

150 Iron Patriot
117 Bullseye
70 LE Venom
63 Daken
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400 pts

I was concerned that the team was far too even for the ATA to be very likely.

But then I looked at this;

150 Iron Patriot
140 Nor-Var
117 Bullseye
72 LE Daken
70 LE Venom
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550 pts...............5 figs with 50 pts left off for 600 pts.

10pt/fig seems pricy for an ATA but at least I can see a possibility in the builds now.

Wish he had the Thunderbolt keyword. I know it's a later version of Mac, but it would be nice to have more thunderbolts.

Good find. Yeah a ten point per figure ATA could be awesome, something like if another character with the Dark Avengers keyword is within 6 squares increase this characters attack and defense values by +1.

Super Strength? BCF? He has options when based as well

He's not a game changer by himself, but he's not as terrible as you seem to think.

Looking forward to playing this team


70 WS101 Venom
117 WS042 Bullseye + 8 (Thunderbolts)
63 WS031 Daken
141 WS038 Noh-Varr
399

did you mean relegated? Sorry it always bother me when people do that...

But yeah I agree. Even "Toned Down" restrained Mac wasn't that bad in the comics. Again as stated in another post he could still HULK out into Venom.

So from what I can tell from the two previews, this figure has an identical paint job to the black suit Spidey. I don't like that because it feels lazy, but I do like that because in the comics he was presented to the public as black suit Spidey, and he looked like it.

decent figure, but I would have to say that the venom from HoT is better overall, especially if you feat him up.

Well like everyone has said, generally speaking for competitive reasons I would take the HoT version almost every time, but I do like the dial and he rounds out the Dark Avengers nicely.

The attack and defense values are a tad low for current trends, but on the flipside this guy has some serious damage output for a 70-point figure (natural 4 seems pretty darn good for the price you pay). Throw "Vampirism" on him (whish is still themey-ish) and you boost his survivability, too!

Very consistent. I'm gonna love Monster teams when this set hits.