When they calculated his speed, they divided by 10 to get a "baseline" speed, as though he was on King Kai's planet. He wasn't, he was flying over snake way, which has normal gravity. It's displayed in the math but they don't verbally mention it.

Is the change in him instantaneous, or is there an adjustment time when he changes between locations of different gravity levels? Golden Age Superman originally had powers because Krypton's gravity was much greater than Earth's, so I'm wondering if Goku's body might adapt to the increased gravity and then take a while to go back.

Not saying this is the case, I just honestly don't know. Never had any interest in watching the show.

It's like a strength training thing. King Kai's planet was 10x normal gravity, so that's just what he was training at. He was having trouble when he got there, but was fine when he was done training. Later on he trains at an even higher gravity, and Vegeta regularly trains at 100x for a light workout.

I agree that Goku's speed was calculated wrong.

Even if they didn't divide it, they were using an example from really early in the series. Goku got way stronger since then, even if you're just considering base form. Like a year after snake way he was training in 100 times gravity. Not to mention Instant transmission.

Yes the characters trained under that weight, but it isn't like they go to those environments and then stay under that same kind of pressure everywhere else. So in your specific example they are correct for dividing by 10 because the gravity is different between Earth and King Kai's planet.

They gain a certain boost in speed immediately after leaving those environments, but that increase decreases overtime after not being in those environments.

You're wrong, but honestly this debate is incredibly stupid anyway. Once you apply physics to any of this, anyone who can move at the speed of light can do an infinite mass punch, which means no matter how much force you can withstand, infinity is higher. Any punch by either of them would result in mutual annihilation. Nobody wins.

So, if you were to be put in a room that was 10 times Earth's gravity, and then moved to normal gravity, you would still be subjected to 10 times Earth's gravity? Is that the point you are trying to get across? Because you're wrong if that is the case.

If you're saying the speed boost doesn't go away after changing to a lower gravity, you are also wrong. You can be put under a certain amount of pressure and afterwards feel and act lighter, but your body will still adjust to the change in weight/gravity.

So, where exactly am I wrong?

Had a fun discussion about this at a party a few months ago. What we settled on was (and keep in mind that I'm conveying this secondhand and have never seen Dragon Ball Z) that since Goku comes back stronger every time someone beats him, Superman should quickly learn that fighting him directly won't work and trap Goku in the phantom zone.

If Goku wanted to fight dirty and use some kryptonite or teleport Superman to a place with no yellow sunlight he might win, but he's too honorable for that, even if the battle depends on it. Superman is honorable as well, but the way it was explained to me Superman would presumably be more focused on collateral damage and ending the battle quickly, while Goku would be more focused on the fight itself and trying to get Superman's best out of him.

I'm also not clear on if Goku is magic and if so what parts of him are. Pretty sure that's open to interpretation, so the fight will pretty much always go to whoever the person arguing wants to win.

The video posted explains everything here but the Phantom Zone. That would be a good idea though.

I didn't watch the video. I watched the leadup to it and didn't like it, and there were others from the same people on in the background at that party and I thought they kind of sucked. When I heard how long the Superman vs. Goku video was, there was no chance I'd be watching it. Glad to hear they covered a lot of possibilities and we were relatively close to them, though.

You really should watch the video so you can understand what I'm talking about.

I actually have watched the video, twice in fact. There is no understanding what you are talking about, because what you are saying is nonsense. Unless there is a specific point I am missing...

Ok, let's say Goku has a speed of 10.
He then trains at 10 times normal gravity, until he can move under that gravity at his normal rate of 10.
Now back under normal gravity, he should be able to move at a base speed of 100, due to his training under 10x normal gravity.
The video then does some math using artwork and trigonometry to figure out his base speed. Then the video shows a graphic dividing by 10 for an unexplained reason (presumably none). His base speed is his base speed, there's no reason to divide by 10 because Snake Way has normal gravity. There's no degradation of speed gained, and besides, that doesn't apply to Saiyans anyway. I think that's the biggest flaw in pairing these two up for a death match... trying to apply any science or logic.

The clip shown states that his ability means he can battle anywhere. I took that to mean he adapts to his environment. When in a increased gravity environment, his body adapts to function in that environment as if he were in normal gravity.

Since the graphic shown was determining his base speed in a place with x10 gravity (or whatever), it needed to be divided to show what his base speed is under normal circumstances.

This is why it's wrong. They determined his base speed in a place with normal gravity.