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This thread may set a record for most negativity about a preview. I am disappointed.
If this new Red Robin had a dial that made Nightcrawler look inefficient, I'm not sure if people would still complain or be super excited for the Red Robin cheese.
I know there is a happy medium, a balance, but not every piece can be hyper-efficient.
I think the sculpt looks great for a common. The dial is decidely not hyper-efficient, but I would still use it, because, you know, I play for FUN.
Just because a new piece won't win you a Gencon cheese-fest, doesn't mean that it should be so disrepected.
And by disrespecting the piece, you are also disrespecting the people who worked hard on it, from the employees at Wizkids to the creators of the character at DC Comics.
I don't know. Nothing can be perfect, but I just don't see the need for such outright negativity.
This thread may set a record for most negativity about a preview. I am disappointed.
If this new Red Robin had a dial that made Nightcrawler look inefficient, I'm not sure if people would still complain or be super excited for the Red Robin cheese.
I know there is a happy medium, a balance, but not every piece can be hyper-efficient.
I think the sculpt looks great for a common. The dial is decidely not hyper-efficient, but I would still use it, because, you know, I play for FUN.
Just because a new piece won't win you a Gencon cheese-fest, doesn't mean that it should be so disrepected.
And by disrespecting the piece, you are also disrespecting the people who worked hard on it, from the employees at Wizkids to the creators of the character at DC Comics.
I don't know. Nothing can be perfect, but I just don't see the need for such outright negativity.
I'm not asking for cheese.
I'm asking these people to earn my respect by respecting the character. Give me a proper representation of a fan loved character that won't be laughed at and shelved.
Not every piece is going to be a winner, but I think all this negativity you're seeing isn't over a piece not being cheese enough, but over a beloved character not being treated properly.
Biggest problems are that there are no Teen Titans in the Batman family who he can utilize his TA with, and there are no Batman Allies on the Titans who he can utilize his trait with.
At least none that we've seen yet. There are bound to be more than one Batman Family wildcards in the near future. Your second case might be tougher, but they didn't design this guy in a vacuum...
Quote : Originally Posted by Heavy Glow
You're a cruel hearted man GroovyBoy
Quote : Originally Posted by Thrumble Funk
And don't give me the "But I love Shatterstar, and want to play five of them!" NO ONE loves a Liefeld creation that much. NO ONE.
Quote : Originally Posted by Ace0Spadez83
We just call "lamest cheddar-spread meta-wang team" a "heroclix team"
I'm asking these people to earn my respect by respecting the character. Give me a proper representation of a fan loved character that won't be laughed at and shelved.
1) Unless you're part of a criminal organization (gang, mafia, etc.), it's probably better to live by the axiom that respect is not earned, it is given.
2) So you're pretty upset about Diamondback, eh?
Quote : Originally Posted by Heavy Glow
You're a cruel hearted man GroovyBoy
Quote : Originally Posted by Thrumble Funk
And don't give me the "But I love Shatterstar, and want to play five of them!" NO ONE loves a Liefeld creation that much. NO ONE.
Quote : Originally Posted by Ace0Spadez83
We just call "lamest cheddar-spread meta-wang team" a "heroclix team"
pretty garbage representation of Tim. I'm sure the good Tim Drake will come from the Gravity Feed or Fast Forces to ensure the sales of those, such has become the method of Wizkidz
I'm surprised no one has mentioned his flawed trait and TA. Thematically speaking, if highlander rules are in play, on either a Batman team or a Teen Titans team, Red Robin can never live up to his full potential, unless you "cheat" and use the DC10 Nightwing; Biggest problems are that there are no Teen Titans in the Batman family who he can utilize his TA with, and there are no Batman Allies on the Titans who he can utilize his trait with. Either way you spin it, he's got to play with Nightwing or you're paying points for aspects of a dial that won't be used.
Except... the DC 10th Anniversary Robin (Dick Grayson). He has the Teen Titans keyword and Batman TA. And he's not Tim Drake.
80 points for that? Looks like it should be about 60-65 points.
Why do they continue to make the Teen Titans team ability super expensive. Isn't 10 years enough time to prove that it isn't that valuable and shouldn't be that expensive?
This thread may set a record for most negativity about a preview. I am disappointed.
If this new Red Robin had a dial that made Nightcrawler look inefficient, I'm not sure if people would still complain or be super excited for the Red Robin cheese.
I know there is a happy medium, a balance, but not every piece can be hyper-efficient.
I think the sculpt looks great for a common. The dial is decidely not hyper-efficient, but I would still use it, because, you know, I play for FUN.
Just because a new piece won't win you a Gencon cheese-fest, doesn't mean that it should be so disrepected.
And by disrespecting the piece, you are also disrespecting the people who worked hard on it, from the employees at Wizkids to the creators of the character at DC Comics.
I don't know. Nothing can be perfect, but I just don't see the need for such outright negativity.
Without honest feedback, and yes that can sometimes be negative, you are actually doing a disservice to the creators of these dials at Wizkids.
1) Unless you're part of a criminal organization (gang, mafia, etc.), it's probably better to live by the axiom that respect is not earned, it is given.
2) So you're pretty upset about Diamondback, eh?
People who take my money for a service earn my respect, unless the occupation deems that respect be given, or is an occupation which I have respect for due to personal experience. Outside of that I offer common courtesy. Most people confuse the two as one in the same.
As for Diamondback, if we're talking about the same figure, is a better clix for fewer points.
Quote : Originally Posted by Greenandgold
Without honest feedback, and yes that can sometimes be negative, you are actually doing a disservice to the creators of these dials at Wizkids.
I thought of something not mean. I kinda like the sculpt, I prefer the old Red Robin costume design though. But I still think it's not bad.
As for being negative, I for one, and plenty of others here I'm sure, are not cutthroat min/maxers. I play characters I like, and often know I have no chance to win at all. I rolled with Moleman and his Moloids back in Critical Mass days. I put Mailbox Plasticman on teams because he looks awesome. So I'm not whining because Red Robin won't win me GenCon.
It's not a good dial. It makes no sense in fact. His toughness is called Kevlar Suit. So for the second and third clix his suit no longer offers protection, but does once again on the 4-6 clix. It's not like his suit reboots. Reword his power to say, he can use toughness and also can use ES/D against ranged attacks, and I would like the figure alot more.
Prize or no prize. If you're not having fun, whats the point?
NOo Defense powerS?? NO STEALTH?? MMMMMMMMMAX of two DAMG AG? WH ra in the HECK WIZCLUNKZ!!! GRABAGIO!!! I fee; a o; the an eed to PUKE when is se this dial!!!!
Such a bummer, I love the character, the sculpt looks awesome, but I just see no justification in this piece for the cost, does anybody know if he is confirmed for a fast forces counterpart?