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I'm guessing a Garth Ennis penned faceoff between The Punisher and Batman would have both of them getting man raped by some creepy Ennis created character because that's what Ennis is into.
I want these clixed: Doc Savage, Fu Manchu, Tarzan, The Shadow, The Green Hornet & Kato, Conan, Solomon Kane, The Phantom, King Kong, Universal Monsters, Black Orchid, Manhunter (Paul Kirk), Xemnu the Titan, unclixed Kirby Fourth World characters, and Lilith, Daughter Of Dracula.
Superman is my favorite, but I actually get pissed when I see writers have him beating up Darkseid. Darkseid should be far more powerful. Likewise, Spectre should easily be able to smack Supes around (and did back in an issue of DC Comics Presents). Just because someone is your favorite, doesn't mean he should win. Jimmy Olsen is also one of my favorite characters, but I wouldn't pick him for a winner in almost any fight. My favorite Super-team is the Giffen/DeMatteis JLI, but the JLA would beat the JLI in a fight any day of the week.
Justice for Jimmy Olsen!! Superman's Pal needs to be clixed!
I'm guessing a Garth Ennis penned faceoff between The Punisher and Batman would have both of them getting man raped by some creepy Ennis created character because that's what Ennis is into.
He's also into writing some solid stories, when he wants to.
The JLA/Hitman crossover is a great example of Garth giving superheroes (particularly Superman) their due.
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Superman has the whole earth under oppression. Batman leads the resistance to take down Superman..........with krytonite, lead & magic at his disposal......Superman still finds his underground bunker...& leads an assault with the super-family...Batman then...
Batman! He beats everyone. Antimonitor, Beyonder, Darksied, Thanos, galactus, heck even the Living Tribunal wouldn't stand a chance.
If you think I'm being ridiculous. I am a bit but the comic industry loves that character. I would say Batman is the most popular character in comics. Amazing seeing how he really isn't an actual super hero!! Lol!
Back to the "fighting to kill" thing: Since Punisher is willing to kill, would he win against Batman? Not a chance. Fighting to kill means nothing when the characters consistently throw down with others who would kill.
I don't think batman has ever fought a trained marksman who uses firearms though
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I have to think that a Punisher/Batman crossover written by Ennis would see Punisher come out on top.
Or, at the very least, Frank would be shown as being able to hold his own, as opposed to being taken down off-panel.
Bottomline, I don't care if DC characters beat Marvel characters. Whatever. What bothers me is when they're written to do it in a way that pays little/no respect toward the character in question.
Did you ever read the wolverine writers response to Punisher beating wolverine in Marvel Knights? Pathetic
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Punisher routinely gets worked over by Daredevil...he'd be way over his head against Batman.
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Eh, I'm thinking more of a "Confederacy of Dunces" sort of storyline.
FRANK: Rich boy sees his parents die and takes up crime fighting instead of polo. He thinks he's fighting a war, and he may be right. Only thing is, his war ain't Vietnam.
It'd be a fun fight, if someone actually wrote it to be a fun fight instead of Batman just demolishing him. Hell, Batman can (and, I'd argue, should) even win!
In Frank's defense, he's just a normal dude with a ton of training and determination, Batman is essentially metahuman by nearly all definitions. Daredevil is legitimately super powered. In a fair writing scenario where the author isn't stupid biased, Daredevil Punisher crossovers are cool, and a Batman Punisher fight could be really fun.
Won't ever happen though.
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I'm guessing a Garth Ennis penned faceoff between The Punisher and Batman would have both of them getting man raped by some creepy Ennis created character because that's what Ennis is into.
I'm guessing you've only heard of Ennis by reputation? Call me a fan boy, but Ennis' work in any series he touches has been fantastic, and it's only when he's taking jabs at the industry that he gets that out there.