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Hm. Now I'm really not crazy about TSPrime leaving that vote for colonialbob and then scurrying away. That actually bothers me more than the circumstantial stuff for IR.

Change Vote: TonyStarkPrime

Here's what we know right now

The three required roles:

Wilson Fisk (Criminal / Mafia)
1) Can't be lynched while other mafia is alive, but it looks like as long as another one is found he's lynchable. Also appears to be nightkillable even with other mafia alive
2) He can frame people, power cops will get nightkiller, regular cops will get mafia.
3) If he kills, he basically power cops for the mafia, but janitors that power to the rest of the town. We will know who that person was though.

Kilgrave (Citizen / Neutral)
1) Recruiter of one. That one then acts as a bodyguard for him and can kill one time for him. The power looks repeatable if that recruit dies. The recruit will have no idea unless Jessica targets them. He becomes a misdirector if he successfully recruits.
2) His power interaction with Jessica indicates that he will jailkeep her instead of recruiting her
3) Wins when there are only 3 or less people left. So his power seems to override getting targeted for a night kill (since a vig or mafia technically could still off him under normal circumstances)

Jessica Jones (Hero / Detective / Town)
1) Descriptor cop (Hero, Citizen, Criminal, Detective): Alignment isn't something she can tell.
2) She can reveal to a person they are controlled by Kilgrave and free them.

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With all that, I have a couple theories.
One, the Mafia are not all Criminals. That would basically make Jessica an alignment cop when she was explicitly not given that ability.
Two, If the Mafia are not all criminals, then that opens up the two non-Netflix roles to be of any alignment. Granted they could still be just neutral or town, but it does leave a possibility for them to be Mafia.

There are likely only 3 Heros in the game (unless one of the Non-Netflix is a hero): Cage, Jones, Murdock. Though I wonder if there could be a hero that would fit with the mafia. Something to keep an eye on I guess.

Also, based on Stranger Things, characters can have multiple tags. At least, that wouldn't surprise me.

Also based on the role for Jessica. Sheesh, I need coffee. Wait, I gave up coffee. CRAP.

I was leaning more this direction myself. Vote, offer nothing of value, leave? Classic universal tell that applies to both TSP and Afrcngy in this instance. Shoot, I know I'm guilty of it repeatedly. I'm still not entirely happy about your initial vote on me, but I understand your reasoning.

change vote:Afrcngy

He's posted more recently that we *may* be able to get more from him.

And for kontrol, I like the ideas. I'm wondering how broad a stroke will be placed on the descriptors for Jessica's power. Frank Castle theoretically fits all 4 if he's here. And Jessica's power learns one descriptor and so implies characters can have multiple.

Elektra and Punisher might get the "Hero" label too, if you are feeling generous.
Considering that I was Lonnie Byers and was labeled Adult/Teen in Stranger Things, I don't think we should get too hung up on "character X should not have label Y!" arguments.

My point is more that a descriptor should not be an indicator of who is mafia or town.

Or neutral really. Though we have a modified cult leader already.

My initial read on Immortal Raven isn't bad. His speculation about neutral doctors didn't seem totally off-point and he compiled a list of possible characters which was a sure jumping off point for discussion. Sure, mafia could hide in plain sight that way but it's not exactly a scummy move.

I think everyone has posted except RenegadeRoy.

Good points. I'm having a tough time seeing a criminal as town, though neutral would fit for folks like Shades and Owlsley.

You're just mad your team keeps breaking their offensive tackles.

Tempted to vote for you because this clearly displays poor judgement.

The back and forth between IR and Ignatz/Mal has been interesting, but I don't get real strong feelings from it one way or another. Still, I think that's the best direction to explore.

change vote: IR

Yes, I am mad about that and that our kicker is a blatant moron.

THis vote puzzles me after mal and Ignatz both moved on.

Day Start
Sunday November 13, 17:45 CST

Votes in time order:
colonialbob(1): TonyStarkPrime
Quebbster(1): colonialbob
kontrol(1): Quebbster
RenegadeRoy(1): colonialbob
Immortal_Raven(1): malakim2099
malakim2099(1): Immortal_Raven
TonyStarkPrime(1): malakim2099
Afrcngy(1): Immortal_Raven
Immortal_Raven(1): colonialbob


Day End
Monday November 14, 17:45 CST