The rookie player in your example that has a few boosters and one or two premier starters? He should be easily able to field a 450 pt faction pure army, if that was indeed the mandated rules for sanctioned events.

Lets see call it 2 boosters and a single premier starter... thats 4 vehicles, 8 infantry, 4 mechs and 2 unique mechs...

At the upper end of your example, with 3 boosters and a pair of premier starters, that same rookie player would have 7 vehicles, 14 infantry, 7 mechs and 4 unique mechs...

While I would hardly consider the average army pulled from those boosters to be great, the odds are that the rookie wouldn't have a great army if he used all the best of all his forces in a mixed faction army.

I'm not advocating faction purity for all events, but either way a rookie has little chance of winning against a veteran.

PS. Don't forget that in the Premier Starters, there are only the original 6 factions, so a high probability of drawing 450 pts on a single faction out of a pair of premiers. Also if the boosters were CA, which is likely if he is a rookie starting today, then you have to take into account the fact that non-unique heavy mechs are present now, and so are Behemoths and JES II's. All he would need to do is pull a rifleman, behemoth, Shockwave or JES II that matched up with a faction he got a unique in from the Premiers, and that would be the majority of his points right there.

@Gui-Jay - Thanx! But you missed when I once made a dissertation explaining that Hitoshi Sato was overcosted charge-bait. Of course Sato has agility...

@ phoenix hawk - I wasn't a BM then, like Thumper guessed. I wasn't interested in being one until the old BM crapped out and the Venue needed one, so I got approved only a few months ago. BUT I still supported the Venue's decision- and I would again. PS: The poor poor BR player was a former BM :) who DID NOT lack for LE's.

For those who missed it, I promote Faction Purity because-

Faction Purity as a legal requirement is, at the same time, both the simplest and most comprehensive modifer to game mechanics.

No other single proposed rules change will effect every piece from Mason Dunne to Cpl. Spano, from peasant companies to donars, in a way that is easy to understand and fast to implement, and that will make no existing game pieces legally unplayable.

Yep I'm a Zealot, yes I am... do da...

MECH SNOOP,

Well once again you have exemplified your immaturity and low IQ level that balances out on about the same level of 3 year old… no wait…. Make that a fungi… they have no cognitive thinking.

To clarify so that you will be enlightened and a brain cell may begin to get a spark.

The number of MWDA players in relation per capita is very low in Kansas let alone gaming in general. The preferred board game of combat is Hero Clix and Warhammer products and true war games such as Advanced Squad leader and Achtung. Also, the general mentality of people in the area is that there are other social activities that are preferred over gaming. Family focus is more the cultural norm. SO before you make you assumption of immaturity, do a little research on the area before you spout your mouth off. Granted Kansas is a boring state compared to some others BUT we have our strong points such as being a great state to raise kids, plus we have some top notch sports teams.

Back to MWDA, the few that do participate with me in this grand marketing scheme called MWDA are ex-army or marine officers and a few scholars who are experts in strategic and tactical thinking. The above mentioned participate in board entertainment such as Squad leader and Advanced squad leader, which if you are half- way aware of you would know that to be successful at the above you HAVE to be a very good strategic and tactical thinker. From the posting you have listed you do not have that mental capacity to survive 10 minutes of combat in the above mentioned war games.

Also, we get together every so often in this wonderful pocket draining creation by WizKids to challenge our minds and wits. We do not wish to go to the tournaments because we have seen the mentality of the players, mainly the top players who are quite arrogant, inconsiderate, and immature DURING game play. Now that’s a small sample of the players out there. Most of the combatants we run into are great company but if anyone comes in with the mentality you have.. well lest say they are crushed in battle. We could careless about our ranking and we play the game for fun and mental exercise leaving the field of battle as friends; no swearing, no bad mouthing and on to a real life outside the MWDA universe… which apparently you do not have.

Now I am not saying that I am the WOLRDS greatest MWDA player, I am far from that because I know there are better players then I . When it comes to MWDA I welcome anyone as long as you obey the rules, are courteous, and mature.

Would like to make an observation about you, you brag and slam other people but oddly enough your geographical location of residence is not posted… is that saying you are king in your own realm… as long as no one finds out were this kingdom is; or does it mean that you are PULLUS?

Either way, going pure faction in MWDA is enjoyable and challenging. I salut all who participate in this way of thinking especially to those who do not give up. I hope WizKids will have more tournaments were pure faction is the norm or at least rewarded for doing it. Also, if WizKids was on the ball in that if they offered up great prizes on pure faction games, as in they did for the last one were as the winning faction creates a LE for the next expansion: It’s a wonderful money making scheme.
One final note into this response to MECH SNOOP:

The DIFFERENCE in how YOU play and how I play MWDA is as follows:

I play CHESS…

You play CHUTES and LADDERS.

Good evening and CHEERS,

I digress from this post you started and on to more enjoyable postings.….

Like I said, we all do silly things. I'm quite sure you used very well detailed ideas and examples as to why Hitoshi Sato was an over-costed charge-bait. I would have, however, liked to see the first reply to such a post, a simple 3 words, that defeated the whole thing "Hitoshi has Agility". Quite powerful counter-arguement.

On to faction purity.
Ok so it's a easy to understand rule change, but what are the effects which you would like to witness, if such a thing was to become reality?

Personally, it's the disapearance of all-star amies that has me consider enforcing faction purity. I like faction purity, but I will never force somoeone who -cannot- play faction pure to do so, nor will I deny him the right to play the game. I just want to get rid of munchkin armies.

MechSnoop does have a point ... it's too bad that all the power-units are overused.

I personally think FP is 5x as fun, and adds more strategy to the game.

I also think about 1/2 to 1/5 of all tournaments should be faction pure.

Eh i try to keep it down to 2 Factions
Most of the time it is
Spirit Cats and SW
or BR and SW
or SC and SW O_o But i must admit...now the SH medium AA tank will make its way in, Its a good unit to swat those annoying SS balac's and DF Donars away

too bad it will swat -all- Vtols away.

I think that all factions should have faction abilities which reward faction pure....

Ugh, I dislike people taking such extreme sides and thinking what they say is truth.

It really frustrates me seeing the Anti-Purists and the Faction-Purists saying things like "If you don't like it, switch factions!" and "Faction-Purists have more skill and those who don't play pure are just LE hunters who only want to win and have no skill!"

Both of these groups make everyone else look bad. I am not referring to all purists/non-purists of course, only one who might say one of the statements above, ie the people who are the extremes.

My opinion is that there should be a better incentive than just formations to promote faction purity, but I don't believe the incentive will ever be good enough with the way units are balanced/priced now. HOWEVER, I am against complete (or close to) faction purity in most tournaments for the very same reasons Wizkids' policy is against it.

1) I've been playing for almost a year, spent quite a bit of $$$ on singles and boosters, and a half-case. Do I have enough figs to make a decent army for at least 1 faction? No. So if tournaments became even just 50% faction pure, I'd be royally screwed and unable to compete/improve my skills.

2) The game's units were not balanced/priced with faction purity in mind. This single reason alone prevents fair faction purity competition. Enforcing faction purity with the way things are now would only make an environment where people play with better factions, instead of a mix of better units, and make it even harder for those without large budgets to collect the few good units from their faction to make a decent force. This could be offset with faction boosters maybe.

So instead of seeing the same 50 or so units in a mix and match army, we now have a game where we see the same 2 or 3 armies per faction as the amount of decent units a person could put together into an army has been reduced. I thought we wanted to increase the variety in armies? One step forward, two steps back.

Don't get me wrong, I would like faction purity IF IT WOULD ADD DEPTH, but this would not be so with the current balancing/pricing of units, we'd just be restricting the number of viable units someone could choose from even moreso.

When we get to MW 2.0 and make an overhaul of the game, THEN would be the best time to introduce purity IMHO, as Wizkids can then change their balancing/pricing with Faction purity in mind.

I always try to play faction pure I hate getting beat by people who always bring the same stinking DF to every event for the must part. Finally this week he change his army he went without Df donar only on a chellenge that he couldn't bring an army with out them and win. He came in second proofing my point.

@ Gui-Jay

http://www.mwrealms.com/forum/showth...=kirawasa+sato

it pains me that it took 4 posts to note that sato had agility.

JP = So if the guy with the Donar came in second, how many games did he win and how many did he lose? You only have to lose one to be second.

Anyway, I think its fine to have people play Faction Pure if they want to do that, but I am opposed to it being mandatory. Given enough time, Faction Pure would be worthwhile as more pieces becoem available. Until then, let Faction Pure be a venue supported event, not a standard tournament.

As for Faction Pure being inline with the story, just remember that everything except Liao is a subfaction of the Republic of the Sphere.

-Andy_in_Indy,

I would agree, Faction Pure shouldn't be a requirement (except in say Faction Wars II if it ever comes up again). Whereas I like playing FP, I don't want the other person to feel that they are forced in playing it at all. Besides, I like the challenge if someone wants to put in 20 Balacs or whatever. I figure at least one or two has to miss the Dropship, right? ;)

Now if I could only get a few more ROS pieces....

So you may not disagree with it, that doesn't mean that the thing that BattleMaster did wasn't simply illegal.