Ahh Sea Fox's are not mercs they are a True Clan

Hmmm...Not bad:

I actually Like all these faction abilities. Zellbrigen should be fine, Mercilous won't be too bad, and EI is justifiably powerfull...

As for the SF abilities, Renegade doesn't matter much to me, no biggie, so long as they have generally good attacks. Scavanger is just fine too, should make their mechs rather long-lasting, despite (likely) short dials. Predators is pretty good too, just makes knocking off that salvaged unit that much easier, the No SE thing isn't a biggie (how many things have armor on their salvage clicks?

Mid :)

as a note, maybe merciless is a good thing for the falcons in that no one will want to be in close (in DFA range)- keeping it about ranged combat is good.

Well, I was partly correct. Sea Foxes were involved in the first
preview - only it was their faction abilities, and not the Tiburon,
that were previewed. ;)

Poor Trovic is still a sitting duck. :(

Oh well, it'll be fun to do some more Gyrfalconing, only now the goal will be to DFA instead of alpha strike! :grin:

I can see it now - all the chargemonkeys, who used to play Arnis
before charge was nerfed, will now flock the the Jade Falcon
banner and become DFAmonkeys! :rolleyes:

What is up with all the physical combat, WK?

I thought WizKids had said that all uniques were considered Elite regardless of chevrons on the dial?

As far as the faction abilities go, Merciless is semi cool, although as an original Falcon player I hate close combat but I will use it. And is there a caveat on Zelbringn so that if I shoot Arnis and he runs away but I have another target in range I can shoot that or do I have to chase Arnis around the board from now on?

Okay people, put things in perspective...

Fluff wise, the first time we met Clan Jade Falcon was in the Jade Phoenix trilogy, surrounding the adventures of Aidan Pryde.

Now, those people who claim to know the Jade Falcons and DON'T know that name have obviously had their head in a bucket - this was one of the best story arcs in the CBT universe. Aidan's exploits result in him becoming this revered figure in Falcon "mythology", blah blah...

The thing I'm pointing out here is that Aidan used DFA as an attack, one he was pretty skilled at. Also, like charge, think of DFA as not just a physical attack, but as point blank weapons fire as the DFAer rains fire down on it's opponent, something Pryde was "famous" for.

In the end, people quoting that the Falcons would never DFA need to grasp hold of a couple of fundamental concepts; 80 years is a long time for them to change, an army with a prevelance for using Jumpjets is bound to make aggressive use of them, and when it comes down to it, if Wizkids want to make this clan more physically aggressive, it's there choice. Personally, I'm kinda looking forward to trying the Falcons out... :)

Of course if you ignore the fact that Aidan Pryde was Dezgra for most of his career and life. And part of the reason was because he used close combat attacks, they were not the only reason but they were a contributing factor.
DFA is a mechanic in the game and the only thing that comes close to explaining Trivic's cost so I will use it. But that doesn't mean the Falcon's would approve. And yes 60-80 years is a long time 4 generations of trueborns, however their training would not have changed except slowly and the Falcon's were the most hidebound/traditional of the clans so the changes would be even slower for them. I personally believe that wizkids is using an 80 year jump to explain things that would be closer to 150 years to change.
JMHO

Heh, SC CBA's are going to love this Zellbregen ablilty:

"Okay, three more clicks? Nope, he's not dead yet. As a matter of fact, he's going to move over here, out of range, while his four buddies get all rear-arc on you..."

Heh. Somehow during all the months of controversy before they fixed (as such) charging, I never connected this imagery:

(From Monty Python, Holy Grail scene where Lancelot attacks the wedding)

Caden Senn, gate guard:

Janis Nova Cat, gate guard #2:

Caden Senn:

Janis Nova Cat:

Caden Senn:

Janis:

Arnis Drummond: HA-ha!

Arnis Drummond: Bwaha-ha-haha!

Don't forget that a lot has happened in that 80 years. The initial Invasion, the WOB Jihad and the so called Clan Civil War will all have had an effect, even on a Clan as hidebound as the Falcons. And mentioning Aidan Pryde is not pertinent to this discussion. Aidan was unique. Though there are probably 'children' of his running around in the Falcons ranks... :cross-eye

Anyway, about the abilities. I like Zellbrigen, Merciless is nasty if you let their Jump Mechs close, and EI is about right in my opinion. Overall, it looks good except for the whole Clan Honor/Close Combat issue.

Whoa, that didnt come out right. And cant edit either.

Heh. Somehow during all the months of controversy before they fixed (as such) charging, I never connected this imagery:

(From Monty Python, Holy Grail scene where Lancelot attacks the wedding)

Caden Senn, gate guard: chews apple, sees something 200 yards distant approaching. Looks over at fellow gate guard Janis Nova Cat.

Janis Nova Cat, gate guard #2: Smiles, looks back at Caden Senn, notices something 200 yards distant

Caden Senn: Shrugs and chews apple more... notices figure still 195 yards distant approaching

Janis Nova Cat: Scratches, nods at Caden Senn, wishes she had an apple herself

Caden Senn: Notes rapidly approaching 190 yard distant figure, contemplates if he should do something. Scratches ###, looks over at Janis

Janis: looks back at Caden, shrugs. Really begins to wish she had an apple. Or a beer. Actually she'd rather just have a beer.

Arnis Drummond: HA-ha! teleports the remaining 190 yards, massacres Caden in mid-applebite, then massacres Janis as she raises a finger and prepares to say "Hey bloke, whaddya think yer doin!"

Arnis Drummond: Bwaha-ha-haha! massacres everything else as they wonder how he managed to close 190 yards before they could pull a trigger.

Pride was also disgraced for his entire career. The Falcons still hate melee. Not to mention that DFA is just simply jumping on the other guy, it has nothing to do with firing all your weapons.

Yep. As someone who also played CBT, that was understanding
of DFA as well. ;)