In all seriously, I've got nothing but love for you Kam. But I'd call out my own mother if I thought she wasn't being straight.

(PS - I never did get those cards, but I did appreciate the thought)

Chad, I'm just bored. You know I love you. But.

Would you really call her out to "improve" her... or just to "prove" that you know best?

Aren't you just surfing around looking for someone to tell that they are wrong?

But what if the flaw is only seen through your personal sense of morality? You are telling people your opinion of where they should "rise up" to, but you are presenting it as proven fact that should be applied to all of mankind.

I call bullcrap, sorry.

(I am only trying to point out a flaw so you can correct it.)

Well listen, I have a friend that would love to get his hands on probably 2 of this card so if you are willing to trade fairly for the card then please let me know what you are willing to trade for and we will make this thing happen. The card is only worth about $15 because it is an EA and that is really way to high for me because I don't see it as a very playable card. I consider the EA Panacea Potions and Albert Gaines as being FAR MORE playable than this EA and you can get them for next to nothing out on EBAY so again please PM me some wants and I will let him know and send you his counter offer.

Scenario
Someone does something that I think is wrong.

There are two alternatives. 1 - I do nothing. 2 - I do something.

I would rather be faulted for action than inaction. And yes, I'm more than willing to accept the consequences of stating my opinion (positively or negatively)

I only have my own rules/morality/whatever to judge things against (just like everyone else). To say 'you can't say that's wrong because you don't know them/the situation/whatever' quickly moves to a place where all sense of right and wrong completely vanishes.

I happen to believe things can be black and white (though not all the time), and I also know that if no one speaks up, nothing ever changes.

I understand, and I agree to a certain extent... or else I wouldn't have called bullcrap myself.

In this case, in my version of black and white morality, you were way off base bringing it up in the first place. Way too intellectually-correct-elitist, in a thread that had nothing to do with the issue you raised. It was not meant to "help" anyone, it was just flinging poo in the name of righteousness. You were only trying to make yourself feel morally superior, you had no motives for improving your fellow man whatsoever.

I can be as guilty as anyone when it comes to the inflammatory morality gig, and therefore I will start with the man in the mirror when it comes to rising above this problem.

Join me?

That's not how it works. The playability of the EA is a factor in determining its value but not nearly as much as its availability.

This card is worth more than Hobby League commons.

Actually it's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Me, you would only get about 10 bucks from, since its pretty much just a prize card from a sneak preview; that is including the fact that they were only available to Europe.

If it were actually playable it could be 15 or 20 like Snikt.

It's worth what it averages on eBay - what most people are willing to pay, not just you.

Snikt isn't playable.

Which is what people are willing to pay for it. Thus, how much its worth. Just because I said I wouldn't pay more than 10 for it doesn't mean someone else wouldn't pay 20.

If you say so.

nosense
all european players want the same prizes of the american players.
the ea is only a palliative and you can't blame them for doing what they want with a prize that have low interest value here.
nobody here sell the playmats and the shirts because it's what they want....it's the right prize for the SP and like a trophy and nobody wants to give it a away for money.
but, really, do you think that a prize like an useless (because catwoman is NEVER played) ea will make the players proud?
c'mon....you know..the only value of a prize like a catwoman EA is to be selled to collectors.
no hypocrisy here!
it's easy for you to speak when you have a lot of 10k and pc each year, playmats, shirts, and we don't even have localized products.
you are obviously talking about a situation you don't even know.

I feel your guys pain kind of. The TO for the sneak peaks gives out t-shirts and deck boxes to people he likes and then he gives out some of the others. It really pisses me off to see people get stuff for no reason which SHOULD go to the prize support for the SP. And besides SP there are NO tournaments around my part of america that wouldn't cost around 120 dollars in gas (not worth going to if its that expensive) except for a draft and a golden age tournament that usually doesn't make. To be truthful I would like to have a crappy EA then a deck box given out at SP. I really don't like playmats (I get this from magic as when I see someone playing on a playmat I automatically see them as a scrub and an auto-win) so I really can't feel with you there. The only playmat that I would ever buy or trade for would be the Green Lantern Corps one as I love GL and am now kicking myself in the ass for not playing back then.

Got mine finnaly :grin:

Sorry to here that. That really sucks because the postage wasn't cheap. But then I guess I'll recoup that from some of my immoral eBay gains ;) :p

Fair enough Chad. At least you're not an arse-kisser. I can't abide those. Although in saying that, I do have an open barn-spot if anyone is interested . . . . .

Your way of thinking is flawed somewhat. Supply and Demand mate. I don't see you owning one anytime soon.

I have an Extended Art Archangel 2 drop. He's obviously not very playable so he must only be worth $10 too right? It doesn't matter that there's only one reported in the world at all?

Also quite obviously Snikt is not playable. Ignoring the effect and looking at the cost do you seriously think that with all of the other good Xmen cards you can afford to discard for 3-4 copies in your deck? Clearly you have won lots of things in your VS career.

Also why would anyone want to trade their card for $15 value worth of cards when they could sell it for far more :P
You people should give others more credit. You should at least work to rip people off.

When there was only one Catwoman reported, it was worth a lot more too. Now that there are too many to count, it's value is much less. To everyone, not just me.


Snikt will not be played in Golden age, you are correct. But to completely discard its usefulness because it says "discard and x-men character card" is retarded. There are only three other cards that offer more attack than snikt. (beatdown, Earth's Mightiest, Might Makes Right) Two of which have bigger drawbacks and are more conditional than snikt, and none of which can be used on defense.

And as far as me winning "lots of things in my VS career", I have my points.