A lot of what bothered me was covered in profparm's post concerning the whole "goofy Lex" syndrome. However, I think they could have turned him into the nefarious philanthropist we all know and love by having him get out of prison a little earlier and using his new fortune to improve his name in the community. As far as the rest of the film goes, I think the biggest mistake they made was tying the franchise to a continuity that began almost 30 years ago. I know there's a suspension of disbelief involved but I couldn't help but be irked by the fact that the Daily Planet has flat panel TVs everywhere but Jimmy Olson runs around in a sweater vest and bow tie, like he's vying to one day take over for Tucker Carlson. It's possible to just not like a movie, but was truly made this disappointing is that this was their chance to start over with Big Blue and they didn't. Now if anyone were to want to make another film involving him anytime soon, they're going to be shackled to the scenario as set up in this movie, with the allergic to everything kid and awkward "you're not my real dad" Cyclops/Lois relationship.

I'd assume so (though don't know when it became canonical), since Supes lost his powers due to the red sun at the end of Infinite Crisis...ALL his powers (in 52, Booster elbows Clark in the face and his nose bleeds).

Smallville is such a good show.

Slight correction, Smallville WAS such a good show.

Last season was pretty bad, but I still watched, waiting for it to get better. Unfortunately, that never happened.

Here's to a much better Season 6, that will finally move characters forward to the eventually finale.

~JP

I loved the movie, and especially liked the way Routh kept Supes close to the Reeves Superman. It felt like a tribute in a way, and I thought it was exactly the way it should have been. The Lois they chose I think was much closer to the modern Lois from the comics books instead of the Movie Lois we are used to. A bit too girly, and not nearly strong enough, but I feel the comics have been kind of leaning that way recently. I really think whether someone will like this movie or not depends greatly on what kind of movie they are expecting going into the theatre. This is not the dark batman movie, or the fast-paced spiderman movies. This is the update and continuation of the 1980's Reeves Superman movies many of us loved as kids, and still love today.

Also...
http://www.supermantag.org/
It's a good charity and they look pretty cool to me too.

Ok so I knew what I was getting after the first few minutes of seeing clark back in metropolis. This movie was about celebrating the ideas and mythos of the previous movies. Now I did like the movie, mainly for all the reasons that chad brings up, but its not what I wanted. I wanted a superman for the new generation, and what we got was a celebration of what has been. With that in mind I thought that the movie did exactly what the director and writer intended. Maybe someday they'll let Grant Morrison write something truly innovative for the character for one of the sequels, of course, what I really want is for Grant to take on the Batman/Superman movie, but that's just my fanboy superdream

I saw Superman on opening day and I loved every minute of it! I thought Singer really captured the feel of Superman. As soon as the John Williams original score kicked up and the credits started zooming by me, I was a kid again. I actually caught myself a couple times rooting Superman on as he did his thing and I can honestly say no other movie has pulled me in like that before.

As far as Superman as a character, I personally find him more relatable than most other comic book characters out there. He is an adopted kid of a lower-middle income farming family lived an ordinary life until discovering his powers. He then decided to help people, not for vengence, or guilt, or to prove something, but because he felt it was right and he honestly wanted to do good. Now that is something I can relate to.

Definitely Support Superman!

Superman comes back to Earth after 5 years and has to adapt to the fact that things have moved on, namely Lois Lane (we didn't see more of Ma Kent moving on which was hinted in trading cards). However, everyone is willing to welcome back their hero, Superman. Meanwhile, Lex Luthor has managed to dodge prison and has another sinister plot involving land.

I think this was one of the best superhero films to have come out in recent years, mainly because it was so character driven. Spider-Man 2 attempted to be character driven, but all the MJ stuff was a bore IMO. Kate Bosworth blew Dunst out of the water as far as love interests go. There was action, it just wasn't fight scenes.

I'm seconding Superman being easier to relate to than say...Batman. Superman came from a rather humble background, while Batman has always been filthy rich. I can relate to Superman feeling lonely and isolated sometimes more than I can with Bruce Wayne.

Shoulda just made a 'Superman Begins' and forgot the original series. It worked great for Batman...

I am currently watching Season 1 of Smallville and loving it. It speaks a lot to the struggles of the Superman character and the important role his adopted parents play in his life (and his 'do the right thing at any cost' outlook he bears)

Please don't tell me the series goes downhill. That's what happened with my beloved Sliders :(

That really depends on the individual. I can relate to Bruce's emotions, mostly the whole loner thing.

I think it would be really cool if somebody did a series of JLA movies, now that would be cool. I'm just glad that they're working on a Green Lantern movie, hopefully they don't botch that. :)

Here Here. Although this may iritate those who saw this film and "felt like kids again," it's not at all what I wanted from a new Supes film. I expected it, but didn't want it. Yes, everyone who's old enough has fond memories of the older Supes films (at least the first couple), but that doesn't mean that they couldn't have done ten times better with a revamp that didn't include a continuity involving a Super/Lois baby or a Superman who can reverse time by reversing the spin of the earth, or who can throw the emblem off his chest and use it as a big, sticky, bad-cgi net-thing (not to mention a poor dead pa kent or a Luthor who hangs out with Kitty Kowalski instead of Hope and Mercy).

It's one thing to give respect where respect is due, or pay homage to the older films (gotta love the John Williams track, no matter that his music is almost entirely recycled at this point...it's still great), but after all these years what Superman truly needed was a revamp. Batman Begins was the best comic film to date. DC, instead of learning from its decision to toss out those terrible old Batmen films (please, lets not start a debate about those things), decides "well, the first two superman movies weren't all that bad" and chains itself to a less exciting, bogged down continuity. I'm not saying the film was bad...in fact, it was better than I expected...it just wasn't as good as I'd hoped.

I had never seen an episode before I bought season one a few months ago. The season was absolutely wonderful. I loved it so much. So, I ran out and bought seasons 2, 3, and 4. Season 2 was still very good, but seasons 3 and 4 started a slow descent. By the end of season 4 it was very hit and miss. I've only caught a few episodes of season 5, but it seems that most of the magic is gone. Hopefully 6 will be back in full force.

Agreed.

Disagree. Spider-Man and X-men were better. Batman was still amazing.

Batman Begins is in continuity with the other Batman films. That's why the Joker card appears at the end of the movie, because Tim Burtan's Batman (which was good) comes next.

Since they made it a prequel, it'll be easier to break out of "continuity," but the movie was made in continuity with the 4 Batman movies.

Smallville is a good show. Let's take a little poll, who do you think is hotter, Lana, Lois, or Chloe? They're all pretty hot but I rank them as,

1. Chloe
2. Lana
3. Lois

I think you almost have to look at Batman Begins as the start of a new series of Batman movies and throw out the others. The only other decent Batman movie was the one with Val Kilmer. The Michael Keaton movies were so far off the storyline that it wasn't even funny.

Spiderman 1 and 2 was very good but on-par with Batman I think. X-Men 1 and 2 was on-par with Batman Begins too, but X-Men 3 was not even close to being as good. Just my opinion of course.