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I actually like the Jason Todd Robin. I started running him in my GK deck as a backup and he's been doing well. Tim definitely needs some sort of detective ability. A built-in Utility Belt effect sounds pretty sweet to me.
The Question is a must. I would also like The Birds of Prey as a sub-team. Oh, and Hitman!
The problem is that we already have two Birds of Prey that I can think of:
3 Drop Barbara Gordon and 4 Drop Huntress, both from the Starter Deck. If they do a sub-team they would have to find some other way to mark them.
I would personally like to see them Gotham Knights/Birds of Prey dual affiliated. That would allow for a lot of cool tricks, and it would be in flavor since they tend to work toward thier own ends and aren't necesarily relegated to Gotham.
They can still give us a Black Canary with the BoP version plus the Birds have a couple new members with Shiva and (I believe) Gypsy now on the roster. It would be a small subteam but I think it could work out nicely.
How about some sort of discarding-for-effect ability for the Robins? Kinda like Phantom Stranger or Huntress in Crisis, although not neccessarily a pump or a fizzle. I like the idea of Batman's sometimes-disposable sidekicks being able to give him other bonuses when discarded from hand.
And looking at the neat things they're doing with Cosmic in HoG, I wouldn't even mind it if Team Superman revisited Cosmic as well, though I'd rather see some exploration of the whole 'protection' theme.
How about some sort of discarding-for-effect ability for the Robins? Kinda like Phantom Stranger or Huntress in Crisis, although not neccessarily a pump or a fizzle. I like the idea of Batman's sometimes-disposable sidekicks being able to give him other bonuses when discarded from hand.
And looking at the neat things they're doing with Cosmic in HoG, I wouldn't even mind it if Team Superman revisited Cosmic as well, though I'd rather see some exploration of the whole 'protection' theme.
RE Discarding Effects: Gotham Knights has a few discarding effects and I think more would be a problem for the team.
I wouldn't mind seeing an X-Statix type theme surrounding the new Team Superman team. Ultimately it's really just Superman on the team anyway.
In The Dark Knight Returns there was a female Robin. I think her name was Carrie. Not completely sure about that, though. It's an Elseworld, so it's probably not going to see pring as a card anytime soon.
Carrie Kelly is who you're thinking of. Yeah, she would be awesome, but I guess they're not doing Elseworlds? Could UDE be planning a whole set devoted to Elseworlds comics or are they just ignoring them completely? (I hope not since some of my favorite D.C. comics are Elseworlds)
- Tim Drake: We need a better Timmy pure and simple. Especially now that we're a year past Infinite Crisis his abilities have gotten better since him, Bruce, and Dick went abroad.
- Spoiler: The 2-drop with Evasion is the best we're gonna get there.
- Jason Todd: I think his existing 3-drop is actually pretty good for Gotham and the ability has good flavor too. However, I wouldn't mind seeing a Red Hood that has a good ability
- Dick Grayson: We will definitely get more of him as he is also the Outsider's leader.
Isn't there actually another female Robin that has been overlooked? I can't recall the name but I thought there was another female Robin other than Stephanie Brown.
- Agreed. Tim is arguably the most skilled of the Robins. While less naturally athletic than Dick, he is more skilled in detective work and technology than Dick was as Robin. And post OYL, his combat skills have never been better. I want a really imposing Tim Drake.
- Also agreed. The current version of Jason as Robin is perfect. If we get a Jason as Red Hood (and I assume we will) I'd like it to be Inmates or unaffiliated. We could, however, get a Jason as Nightwing. That'd be an interesting GK card.
- Spoiler has two versions (plus a third as Robin). I don't see a need for another Steph.
- I'm sure there will be some versions of Dick Grayson. Dick as Batman would be extra cool.
The problem is that we already have two Birds of Prey that I can think of:
3 Drop Barbara Gordon and 4 Drop Huntress, both from the Starter Deck. If they do a sub-team they would have to find some other way to mark them.
I would personally like to see them Gotham Knights/Birds of Prey dual affiliated. That would allow for a lot of cool tricks, and it would be in flavor since they tend to work toward thier own ends and aren't necesarily relegated to Gotham.
That would be sweet.
Plus you could have some Birds of Prey members who are not GK:
Shiva
Gypsy
Lady Blackhawk
Blue Beetle
Catwoman
Power Girl
Some of them could arguably be GK. But I'd love to see a Birds mini-team.
How about some sort of discarding-for-effect ability for the Robins? Kinda like Phantom Stranger or Huntress in Crisis, although not neccessarily a pump or a fizzle. I like the idea of Batman's sometimes-disposable sidekicks being able to give him other bonuses when discarded from hand.
And looking at the neat things they're doing with Cosmic in HoG, I wouldn't even mind it if Team Superman revisited Cosmic as well, though I'd rather see some exploration of the whole 'protection' theme.
This thread has gotten pretty GK-centric already. If anything, I'm more excited to see Team Superman get a second chance since they needed it worse than anyone.
I wouldn't mind seeing them improve TS' cosmic theme to bring it on par with what is being done in Heralds. But I still maintain that this mechanic just doesn't fit the flavor of Team Superman very well. Most members of Team Superman have pretty much the same powers. And they don't tend to get shut off unless they are exposed to Kryptonite.
I would like to see less of a focus on cosmic and less of a focus on the Super-clone theme.
I'd like to see more done with the invulnerability, character movement and protection themes. I personally like that you have really good low-drop support characters like Lois and Lana who need to be protected by Supes. I'd like to see that expanded on with even better versions of the support characters and rewards for keeping them protected.
Also, Team Supes has some good locations. But there are some that really need work. Metropolis is outdated now. The Fortress of Solitude was never very good. Plus there really ought to be a Krypton (the cost to play it should be some kind of self-replacement effect) and a Smallville.
As opposed to having a board full of Supermen, I'd really like to see a variety of characters. I already mentioned playable support characters like Lois, Jimmy and Perry. Then there are the established Team Superman members like Superboy (may he rest in peace) Supergirl and Steel. Not to mention some of the forgotten guys like Alpha Centurion, Scorn and Eradicator. Finally, I think TS is the perfect team for guest stars like Powergirl and Wonder Woman.
Dick Grayson <> Batman, Prodigy would be very nice.
A Birds of Prey sub-team represented through dual affiliation would be great. Characters that could easily be attached to this team are:
Barabara Gordon <> Oracle
Black Canary
Lady Blackhawk
Gypsy
Huntress
Savant
Creote
Ted Kord <> Bumblebeeb
Power Girl
James Gordon
Vixen
Jason Bard
Lady Shiva <> Jade Canary
Dick Grayson <> Batman, Prodigy would be very nice.
A Birds of Prey sub-team represented through dual affiliation would be great. Characters that could easily be attached to this team are:
Barabara Gordon <> Oracle
Black Canary
Lady Blackhawk
Gypsy
Huntress
Savant
Creote
Ted Kord <> Bumblebeeb
Power Girl
James Gordon
Vixen
Jason Bard
Lady Shiva <> Jade Canary
I can't believe I left out some of those potential Birds. Good list.
Based on the X-Men set we probally wont see much of the old themes, as there will probally be totally new themes for this set, like brotherhood had its reservist theme etc.
so, the question is what themes should they have now?
i think we can rule out cosmic from Team Superman, i hope they wouldnt make that mistake twice.
Gotham Knights could be concealed heavy...
I dont know, your thoughts?
oh, and im really hoping to see batzarro...
the waynes would be cool, you could kill them off to search for a batman...
same with the El's and superman...
i will say that i am really looking forward to playing team superman!!!!
Dr. Doom should not be more powerfull then superman!
roy harper should not be better then superman!
hawkman should not be better then superman!
terra should be scoffed at!
i want a teir one gonna rock you playable superman. It has only taken them possibly 4 years!!!!!
Please !!!!!
it makes me so sick that bizarro is an 11/7 and superman is still a 7/7 4 drop.
the 2 superman 5 drops are a 9/8? wtf? Mr freeze is a 9/10. thing is an 11/11! couldn't superman trounce thing?
- Agreed. Tim is arguably the most skilled of the Robins. While less naturally athletic than Dick, he is more skilled in detective work and technology than Dick was as Robin. And post OYL, his combat skills have never been better. I want a really imposing Tim Drake.
- Also agreed. The current version of Jason as Robin is perfect. If we get a Jason as Red Hood (and I assume we will) I'd like it to be Inmates or unaffiliated. We could, however, get a Jason as Nightwing. That'd be an interesting GK card.
- Spoiler has two versions (plus a third as Robin). I don't see a need for another Steph.
- I'm sure there will be some versions of Dick Grayson. Dick as Batman would be extra cool.
Even though Red Hood is out for himself, he's still a vigilante and could be considered a Gotham Knight. They considered Azrael, so why not? Plus, who's that chick that Red Hood stuck his knife through her shoulder after they busted up some baddies. A Jason Todd Nightwing would be fitting too.
Yes, not only do I want a really good Batman I'd love to see a really good Tim Drake.
Harvey Dent could always show up as a Gotham Knight too.
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Gotham Knights could be concealed heavy...
Concealed-Optional preferred. IMO
Team Superman
I think a One Man Show sub-theme would be pretty cool because Superman is basically a one man show anyway.
World's Finest as a team? Maybe not a team but I'm hoping there's some synergy between GK and TS. We should see another Bizarro and hopefully Batzarro. We could also get another Mr. Mxy.