Shhhh... don't let the Santa Barbara guys know that... barenakedladies is gonna be all "itoldyousoey" now.

I'll definitely be interested to see their build. I knew it was going to be a force, but I was expecting something more like what I saw in LA. The Defensive Formations are a brilliant addition to the deck.

It was Laser Watch, New Baxter Building, Black Thorn draw engine. Niles said the mull condition is Black Thorn, lol. Tim had an average hand size of 5-6 even after stacked Punisher.

umm actually, shane wiggins, michael barnes, patrick yapjocco, niles rowland, tim rivera, and dan clark were all in modern.

i guess im one of the bad players who top 8ed for silver with secret society and it kinda did feel like the top decks were w/e people wanted to run...i played against skrull,random.dec, ig concealed, jla flash/supes,moliods. this was probaly one of my favorite tournaments because of it..it kinda felt like everyone was just having fun playing vs.

There you go... truthiness from the field... take that Rocketgurl!!!

erick, you're being penile again. Thought you should know.

How? Because someone who was ACTUALLY AT Chicago responds with an opinion contrary to Ludin's? And I highlighted it?

Sigh. Just remember... I only chain to Richardness... he's a big boy (gurl?)... he knows how I do.

Vs isn't boring all the way around. But the game having so many enablers that become staples just doesn't seem good for some reason.

"What are you running?"
"I'm playing X-men. What about you?"
"I'm playing Doom because I can use Mobilize and Faces of Doom."
"Oh. :erm:

Fixed your post.

Hey... a wiener is what wiener does. If you can't take the truth... get out of Wiernerschnitzel!

tchalla: I would get into this long drawn out discussion on why your theories on banned and errata'd cards are off-base... but instead... YOUR FACE IS AN ENABLER!!

Go go penile powers!

EDIT: Oh... and congrats to all the winners at the Mega... it sounds like it was awesome and I heard Pastimes did a great job on running the event. I am so jealous of a store that can hold over 100 people.

Why i like modern

its a bit more easy to test for....which for something like worlds i would rather have a more limited card level. Does everyone forget that Gencon was normally a Modern tournament?

also i just would like to play with the new cards, after a few years you get tired of Checkmate, artifacts and such.

Except worlds isn't at Gencon so that point is moot.

I have to agree that seeing decks other than Fate-based/Checkmate enabled wonder machines would be nice.

It is perfectly reasonable to expect staples to develop since in Magic, they have basic lands. Why shouldn't Vs?

As for the "ideas on the banned and restricted/errata lists" it is easy to disagree with me. In many ways lots of these effects are welcomed by many to leave the game. But the truth of it really does come back around to the card effects. Banning/errataing a card and then making a card that does the same thing but even easier seems like a bad call. Might not be, I can't say definitively. But Rise from the Grave getting hosed and then having something else come along behind it that can steal characters any way seems pretty ruthless to me.

The game is FULL of powerful and degenerate effects. Why should only some of them go away? Fate Artifacts stay but Detective Chimp goes, which, by the way, robbed a team of one of it's best one drops. Enemy of my Enemy gets to stay but the monkey bites it?

I know that many of you smarter folks know how horrible the potential for the monkey was, but then again, many of you were the very ones playing the little bastard, weren't you? Ahmed gets the thumbs up but the monkey gets the thumbs down? Nenora? I could go on.

The balance of power in Vs is a shifty thing. Modern-Silver-Golden. Cards that FINALLY answer problems from a previous set are useless since the problem rotated out of cycle at the same time as the card that made it possible came along. That doesn't get even a side ways glance?

I'm split on what format I want to play. I love VS. I hate seeing cards that drive people to only play certain cards just because of how powerful they are. That makes me not want to play any more. And when I don't feel like playing I don't make an effort to go out and teach new players nor to host nor to attend events.

There are people that shout "nobody plays Ahmed or Quicksilver anymore", but that isn't directly the problem. Sitting down and playing against the same deck for the 4th time in a day is the problem that lots of people don't know how to put out there correctly. I can lose 12 games and sit back down for number 13 and not give it a second thought. Losing isn't the problem, nor is winning, but not having fun doing either one is the problem.

Can we agree that THAT is a problem spot?

Yes, I agree. We should ban Mr. Fantastic.




Stupid Moloids. That was the most played deck I think.