Hasn't this been said many times? Gfish, like most doublers, targets during the day. The action goes through before the roleblock occrs. I think the main reason is to give the doubled person time to make a choice. Can't have a doubler send in an action just before game opens and expect the receiver to be around to respond. Delays the game. I feel you should know this. Better brush up before your own game.

Funny, I thought the same. I saw Ice as an info gatherer as well given this.

change vote to Girathon

I don't like Roy's silence, but Gira's actions are pretty damning.

Sorry about all that. My knowledge on you was not lining up with what you were saying. So I followed my knowledge.

You can understand how, with other, more viable townie powers (like Morph and Truffle) I wouldn't assume that I would be the target of someone trying to futz with me each night.

Again, I was wrong.

Even in a game with much better targets it seems I'm still just a fun guy to mess with.

Just like usual.

Yay!

Also prevents MDs because if the doubling was a night action, the mod has to wait until all actions are in or until the night phase time has expired. Then they tabulate actions and send out the doubling notice which may alter existing, already tabulated actions. Needs to be a day action.

Vote Count:

RenegadeRoy (3): Iceman, colonialbob, Truffle Shuffle

Girathon (4): Rokk_Krinn, gfishfunk, Silver Lantern, IR

With 13 players, 7 is a majority vote. You have roughly 9.25 hours.

Interesting.

I didn't know this. I've been a doubler semi-recently and always sent in my action at night.

I'm still learning the mechanics of how these things are run after all these years.

I did it all for teh lulz.

I learned the hard way. I was a doubler in a Disney game and did not read my role properly. Then when I sent in a night action MSU pointed it out. He graciously allowed me to submit anyway but it caused all sorts of shenanigans and headaches for MSU. Since I learned the hard way, it's kind of engrained into my mod/player sensibilities.

Okay. So we're just going to end the day? I agree Gir should go but I don't understand this logic. Which probably means Roy is mafia and a few folks are helping him out.

It doesn't need to be, but it sure creates headaches if it is not a day action, or at the very least if it is not self-guided.

So I guess we're going Girathon today? Meh, fine.

Change vote: Girathon

Yep. Had a night doubler in my Heroclix game, and it was a colossal pain. I chose not to inform the target until I was sure the doubled wasn't blocked, MD'd, etc... which at least once meant I told the doubled player they had another action after I had everybody else's actions. It was an experience I don't care to repeat.

I agree. There's plenty of time and while I'm not removing my vote on Gir so as to keep things "evenly pressured", I don't think Roy should be let off the hook from talking. Aegon could stand to chime in as well but I don't want to see us going in three directions.

I think "back in the day" when it was first being tried out, the timing problem was the first problem noted. I was a doubler in one of Stan's games and remember him commenting about this and mid game made it a day action. Then problems with blocks and misdirects started being realized in other games.

There are enough votes on Gir and we know he's shady if not outright scummy. Let's throttle back on him for a bit and talk to some other "shy" players. It's a weekday and plenty of hours.

Vote Count:

RenegadeRoy (2): Iceman, Truffle Shuffle

Girathon (5): Rokk_Krinn, gfishfunk, Silver Lantern, IR, colonialbob

With 13 players, 7 is a majority vote. You have roughly 9 hours.