The Girl hates the fact that she loves Se7en.

She feels bad for liking it so much since it's so twisted.

I own it and like it. I don't watch it as often as Lambs, but it's up there.

What do you guys think?

Se7en; horror or not?

I'd say it certainly is subjective to each person. Doesn't really have a definition outside of "that which horrifies."

Part of the problem in defining horror is that being a horror fan is an exercise in desensitization.

Here's a non-horror example: Night of the Hunter

Now that, to me, is pretty chilling, even though it isn't from a horror movie. Post-80's, however, chilling didn't really do it anymore. Things had to be extreme and almost cartoonish in terms of violence to get a rise out of people.

Nowadays it seems as though horror has kind of hit a creative wall.

Se7en is a murder/crime mystery to me, albeit quite a twisted one.

I thought you'd be all over this, Man.

There was another recent topic that I thought you'd be all over and I heard nothing from you. Weird.

Somehow I figured you were a classic horror guy.

I recently said on another forum that the best horror movie I've ever seen was Hausu. I watched it as part of my ongoing fascination with asian b-movies, but I think it's legitimately great. It's more weird than scary, but the atmosphere is terrific and pretty creepy. The scene with the skeleton and the piano in particular is perfect.

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Where are my Iron Maiden Clix??

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It will screw with your mind. At one point The Girl and I just looked at each other and yelled. Not because we were horrified, but because we had no idea what reality was anymore.

Interesting. I will check that out.

See, this is where I think it is more of a personal view. For me it isn't horror, more of a psyc-mystery. For my wife it is definitely horror.

It's like Congresses old definition of pornography. "I may not be able to define it, but I know it when I see it."

You want horror? Listen to this and tell me that it's not the soundtrack to the apocalypse.

Give me atmospheric scores anyday.

Great film score: Johnny Greenwood's work on "There Will Be Blood."

Mummies are the most useless version of zombies. There is only ever one, it's "curse" is always ill defined and usual the person afflicted with is killed via their own stupidity which is already established by the fact they did something to make a mummy mad. Mummies just sit around around until some guy deserving of a Darwin award wakes them up, then they shamble after them at a pace a newborn could get away from. That means mummies are only useful if a stupid person is involved and that's a horrible origin story.

At least zombies have numbers.


I'm thinking I played more than you. It had as much problems as Heroclix did/does, the only issue with it is that it didn't have the rules team and support that Heroclix did. It always took forever to get official clarifications. That was the only problem with the game. If it was still around I would still play it and probably more frequently than I play Heroclix

I have always viewed fondly as a love story.

I always viewed it as a vehicle for Embeth Davidtz, one of the only actresses to come even remotely close to being a celebrity crush.

Actually, I remember it creeping me out.

Yet I think that has more to do with the fact that I saw it in the theatre with my sister and her boyfriend of the time, who was the scummiest guy I have ever met and all he wanted to do was mack on my sister when I was sitting on the other side of her.

And yes, when he heard the line "give me some sugar baby" he thought it was awesome and used it over and over the rest of the evening. I had no other way to get home, so I had to deal with this douche the whole evening.