True, I suppose. I'm just not sure it makes much of a difference. Maybe I'm missing something?

Roy, are you able to lock someone up tonight? A RB or JK? Or something similar?

Not sure you should admit to this necessarily, but if you can, it might give us some options.

I would hate to lynch TSP twice in the game when he's not mafia either time. And part of me thinks that the fact that he was added as the 15th player and still replaced after Rokk didn't show, would tend to lean in favor of him not being mafia. I do think a 4th neutral is too much. So I am guessing he's either a weak townie, or a weak mafia.

With 14 players 50% town is 7 players. 60% town is 8.4 players or 8 rounded down, which leaves room for 3 neutrals and 3 mafia to be at 14 (about 20% of each).

So lets look at the 14-15 players.

1) SL/11 - Town
2) Iggy/Mom - Town
3) Roy/Xmen - Town
4) VB/Hopper - Town
5) Grizz/Mike - Town
6) Truffles/D&L - Town
7) CBob/Barb - Town
8) Mal/Nancy - Town

9) Quebs - Neutral
10) Ralphio/TSP #1 - Neutral
11) Braniac/Demogorgon - Neutral

12) KJ/DrBrenner - Mafia
13) Afcngy/FBI lady - Mafia
14) 3rd Mafia member (Probably JoH/TSP less likely that it could be Quebbs, Roy, Iggy, or VB). Can't be Grizz or I as we both appear in the write up as our characters.

15) The added player Rokk/TSP #2 - Is he the 3rd mafia member or a townie/neutral??

One thing that is throwing me off about being RTed is that my hide with mike is a day action. Any thoughts on this or am I being overly paranoid?

I see what you're saying, but I'm choosing not to see Rokk's role as a "bonus" slot... and if anything a third mafia member would actually git well in that slot. Gfish was anticipating the Demogorgon being very difficult to track down/kill, stating that the mafia and town would need to work together. Make me believe the "last" role would go to a third mafia member to help out their numbers.

Curious as to why TSP has said nothing, however, as he's been looking at the thread (not that that means a ton). Could be a silent surrender? Who knows.

Not overly paranoid. However, while you choose your hide target during the day it doesn't activate until the night phase, so I could see it being interpreted as a targeting at night.

I'm wondering if the last mafia member has an extra action they can do when they're the only ones left (would explain how TSP targeted grizz as well as Mal.

There is a 3rd Mafia with and without the 15th slot. with 14 players even just 20% is basically 3 mafia (2.8). The question is whether there is a 4th mafia.

I think he's either in the USD or pretending to be.

Ah, gotcha. I don't think there's four mafia, based purely on nothing... heh.

With the RT, it's possible that Brenner targeted Ignatz with his "misinformation" power before he died, right? The only hiccup being that Quebbs confirmed targeting grizz... which could also just be coincidence?

Misinformation could mean Ignatz got mostly correct info but also some incorrect info. It wouls certainly be convenient if the misinformation gave the last mafia member an alibi.
I'd expect the misinformation to target the cop, but they could have been assuming the guide would target the cop.

This is the lynch pin right here and a good pick up by Quebs about TSP not being able to kill if he targeted Mike.

I think that if we're trusting Iggy, then TSP can't be the mafioso.

More likely it's JoH. The only other option is VB or Roy (if we believe Iggy's RT). Which I tend to with him asking me what I did last night early on. Why wouldn't he target IR or Nancy though?

Quebs, you don't have some info that you haven't shared do you? Just trying to piece together as much as we can before we go with a plan here.

I wish VB was more active. VB, do you do anything besides cop?

Wait, on N2, Roy power Copped CBob as the alignment cop (which is VB's claimed role)and we assume he was messed with. Also on N2, VB copped Grizz as neutral (which we know is wrong) Brenner couldn't have messed with both of them. Though I suppose Truffles could have MDed one of them. That is probably what happened.

nope, just variations on the power.

N1 I used my power to get a name, everyone was blocked or something and I never got anything back.

Last night I used my alignment power and got mafia...who was mafia. I had also used it against Cbob (N2 I think) but was misdirected as I got 'neutral'

I only had a one shot on the name thing, can use alignment power but not on consecutive nights and uh I have another power that hasn't done anything of value yet

????

I'm very close to changing my vote to VB but fear it might be too late.

whaaaaaaaaat? why?